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Trad, 1100 ft (333 m), 11 pitches, Grade V,
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Access Issue: Red Rock RAIN AND WET ROCK: The sandstone is fragile and is very easily damaged when wet.
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Holds rip off and climbs have been and will continue to be permanently damaged due to climbers not respecting this phenomenon. After a heavy storm, the rock will remain wet, sometimes for several days. PLEASE DO NOT CLIMB IN RED ROCKS during or after rain. A good rule of thumb is that if the ground near your climb is at all damp (and not powdery dry sand), then do not climb. There are many alternatives (limestone, granite, basalt, and plastic) nearby.
HUMAN WASTE Human waste is one of the major issues plaguing Red Rocks. The Las Vegas Climbers Liaison Council and the AAC provides free "wag bags" in several locations (Black Velvet, First Pullout, Kraft Mtn/Bouldering, The Gallery, and The Black Corridor). These bags are designed so that you can pack your waste out - consider bringing one to be part of your kit (just like your rope and shoes and lunch) no matter where you go. Once used, please dispose of them properly (do not throw them in the toilets at the parking area).
Not claiming any first ascent here - just another way of climbing some of the best pitches on Black Velvet Wall in one push. This also lets you pass crowds. We have done the wall twice this way. Once to combine 'best' pitches, and another time to pass parties on both Prince and Turkeys.
These ascents were back in the 80's, just after Yellow Brick Road was put up.
Start on Gobbler and do these three unbelievable pitches up to the big ledge on DOWT.
Climb back left and up to (run out to lessen rope drag, careful) the bolts on Yellow Brick Road and do the two steep pitches of this climb.
Next, move left again (about 10') and do the last two pitches of Prince of Darkness to its logical top. Spooky
From here follow up the last four pitches of DOWT to it's top (eleven or twelve pitches total).
Not sure why people would rap from the top of pitch seven on DOWT and call it climbing the route - but most seem to.
This gives you an eleven or twelve pitch climb, moves from the right to left, and therefore straight up the wall, and combines the best and hardest pitches of four existing routes climbing the entire Black Velvet Wall.
Start with Gobbler and end on the real top of DOWT.
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That's good. I like Gobbling the dream of the yellow turkey or just Gobbling the Yellow Turkey. Uses the names of the original FA but Kim can call it whatever he wants.
This is another nice combo. As Kim suggests, many of us did this combo right after these lines were established in the mid 1980's - I think before Fiddler existed and when there were signs on the rock indicating all the different lines. At that time most of the new bolted routes were pick and choose what combination you wanted for the day. Definitely different than anywhere I had ever climbed but new things were occurring in climbing and I was no one to judge and had a lot of fun with this new bolting of blank walls and signs telling me where to go. (This was about the time when there were climbing wars - bolt chopping, hate mail and debates over hanging on a bolt - hang dogging - we never moved up after a fall, never felt the higher holds as that was cheating - we always lowered, pulled the rope and started from the very bottom). But these routes were new and visionary up sweeps of stunning rock that could not be safely climbed without a lot of bolts. So few people were climbing here that few cared or got their tits in a wringer (well, maybe Rock Warrior ethics suggests otherwise). You would climb up, follow a sign in Yellow (Yellow brick road), Red (Dreams) or Black (Prince of darkness) with no idea of the grade. There was no guide book for these bolting lines and no internet and no one in the canyon for days at a time so it was still adventure climbing. All these combinations used to be marked at the junctions with road maps that have long since been chopped (now we just have a smart phone that does the same and in some ways makes it even less adventure given all the data available). I posted a photo of one of those signs on this site years ago. Sep 29, 2015
I'm a softie and appreciated a full rack for the gobbler and upper pitches of DOWT. Oct 1, 2019