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Extremely unscientific rope sharp edge testing on extremely sharp quartzite: normal rope vs. Edelrid 8.9 protect pro vs. static rope

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Ricky Harline · · Angel's Camp, CA · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 147

While putting up a new trad route with a buddy, my buddy's brand new Mammut Alpine Core Protect rope got its sheath cut while I was on follow.

There was some interest about doing testing of different ropes on this edge, so I went out and did some extremely unscientific (N=1) testing yesterday. This edge is SHARP, and although I didn't get as high as this edge when I climbed it that day, it was really easy to find as it still had lots of rope fuzz on it and all around it. My testing procedure was that I was on a fixed line, then I would have several feet of rope to test attached to a jumar on the fixed line. Another jumar with a foot loop on the bottom of the test rope allowed me to stand in it and load it over the edge. I slowly weighted it fully and used one of those ticker counter thingies to track how many times I loaded the rope. I am currently a chonky boi from not climbing or doing much last year and probably weigh in around 230 lbs. Here are the results for three different rope types:

First up is a typical dynamic rope, the IonR 9.4mm Xeros.

After five loads over the edge it had significant sheath damage:

After ten loads on the edge the core was showing: 

After 12 the sheath got cut: 

It took significantly more to get to core damage. After 25 loads we start seeing significant core fraying:

After 32 loads two of the core strands popped:

Let's compare the Edelrid 8.9 Swift Protect Pro. Sheath took way more of a beating, and is fucked up but no core exposed at 15 cycles:

At 25 cycles it's starting to peek some core out, but there's still a lot of sheath coverage:

Finally at 35 cycles the core is fully exposed:

I stopped testing here, as I figured once the core is exposed I reckon the core will pop similarly to the previous rope.

Lastly, for shits and giggles I tested a static rope. This is the Bluewater Haul Line 9.5mm rope. This is specifically designed to be a haul line and it has a 50% sheath percentage which is the highest of any rope I know of, so this test is not necessarily representative of all static ropes as this is not a typical static rope.

At 5 loads there was some fuzz on the rock, but the rope was looking astonishingly good:

At 15 it was clear this thing is a beast:

For the next ten loads for some reason it started spinning and so was spreading the wear out over multiple sides of the rope:

So I played with it a bunch over a few more cycles, trying to figure out how to get it to not rotate on me. I didn't get a picture of 35, but that's where I figured out how to get it to stop spinning on me. After then finding the way to load it so that it would stop spinning on me I then proceeded to load it FIFTY times.

At this point my foot was hurting and I was shredding my foot loop and I decided to go home.

Unfortunately my buddy sent that Mammut rope back to Mammut so I do not know how well it would have held up relative to the yellow dynamic rope or the Edelrid 8.9 Protect rope. I do have to say I am skeptical that the Edelrid rope would have completely desheathed the way the Mammut did, but if anyone has a bit of that Mammut rope and wants to send me a few meters of it I could verify whether or not the Edelrid is more durable.

The only thing I think I can say I really learned from this is that 1) core strands take longer to cut than I expected, and 2) the Edelrid Protect rope and the Bluewater Haul Line ropes are BAD. ASS.

Cosmic Hotdog · · Southern California · Joined Sep 2019 · Points: 290

Ricky doing the lord's work once again. Appreciate the report and the thoroughness dude

Ricky Harline · · Angel's Camp, CA · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 147

Sorry y'all, I'm not the brightest tool in the shed and should have put this in the climbing gear forum. I have moved the thread over there and locked this one.

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