Mountain Project Logo

Petzl connect adjust, mod etc

Original Post
David Coley · · UK · Joined Oct 2013 · Points: 70

Hi,

One mod I know of is to use thinner rope, but has anyone drilled a small hole for thin cord as a grab handle for releasing under load.

Second question, as there are now alternatives from other manufacturers, has anyone experience of these,  as they look like they have thought more about releasing under load 

Thanks 

Ricky Harline · · Angel's Camp, CA · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 147
David Coley wrote:

Hi,

One mod I know of is to use thinner rope, but has anyone drilled a small hole for thin cord as a grab handle for releasing under load.

Second question, as there are now alternatives from other manufacturers, has anyone experience of these,  as they look like they have thought more about releasing under load 

Thanks 

Some are having better success with the Camp Swing modded with a smaller rope. I'm on my third rope for it and starting to approach something resembling functional but have not found the holy grail yet. That being said it is probably a lot better than a stock connect adjust as it is releasable under load, it's just not fun to do. 

Vinnie Villegas · · North Bend, OR · Joined Dec 2021 · Points: 131

Why not go with Skot’s adjustable daisy?

https://www.skotswallgear.com/shop/iibtmqvirbhhj95vsix27tntlvxgwc

Allez Up · · Detroit · Joined Feb 2016 · Points: 10

I’m curious what others have to say on this. I was about to give up on mine and switch to the skot’s adjustable daisies.
on slabby terrain or in offwidth situations my Petzl connects would get wedged against the rock and I’m getting sick of mashing my knuckles trying to release them. 

Vinnie Villegas · · North Bend, OR · Joined Dec 2021 · Points: 131
Allez Up wrote:

I’m curious what others have to say on this. I was about to give up on mine and switch to the skot’s adjustable daisies.
on slabby terrain or in offwidth situations my Petzl connects would get wedged against the rock and I’m getting sick of mashing my knuckles trying to release them. 

Make the switch!

Climb On · · Everywhere · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 0
Vinnie Villegas wrote:

Why not go with Skot’s adjustable daisy?

https://www.skotswallgear.com/shop/iibtmqvirbhhj95vsix27tntlvxgwc

Am I missing something? Skot’s description clearly says they don’t easily release under tension. 

Vinnie Villegas · · North Bend, OR · Joined Dec 2021 · Points: 131
Climb On wrote:

Am I missing something? Skot’s description clearly says they don’t easily release under tension. 

Go to the link I posted, it actually clearly says it does easily release under tension lol

Climb On · · Everywhere · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 0
Vinnie Villegas wrote:

Go to the link I posted, it actually clearly says it does easily release under tension lol

Thanks. I was looking at the wrong one. 

Elaine Gilstrom · · SF Bay Area, CA · Joined May 2019 · Points: 75
David Coley wrote:

has anyone drilled a small hole for thin cord as a grab handle for releasing under load.

You can do this without drilling a hole in it. Just tie the cord in the gap between the rope and the side of the hole that is already in it. (I can send a pic if you need)

Brian R · · San Luis Obispo, CA · Joined Sep 2021 · Points: 1
Elaine Gilstrom wrote:

You can do this without drilling a hole in it. Just tie the cord in the gap between the rope and the side of the hole that is already in it. (I can send a pic if you need)

What size cord are you using?

Elaine Gilstrom · · SF Bay Area, CA · Joined May 2019 · Points: 75
Brian R wrote:

What size cord are you using?

3mm

Daniel Joder · · Barcelona, ES · Joined Nov 2015 · Points: 0

Elaine, do you mind posting a pic? Sounds like a good solution. 

Elaine Gilstrom · · SF Bay Area, CA · Joined May 2019 · Points: 75
Daniel Joder wrote:

Elaine, do you mind posting a pic? Sounds like a good solution. 

This is the way I did it. Honestly you could even fit larger cord in it.

If you are fully free hanging, you can even clip a sling or your aid ladder into it to get more force into it/make it easier to release.

John Shultz · · Osaka, Japan · Joined Dec 2008 · Points: 50

I think Quinn has hit on the way to go for the Petzl adjust. 

  1. rig them with 8mm (if your freakin units will allow it.Two sets of mine don't work with thin cords!)
  2. don't attach the adjusts to your ladders as you normally would. Have one in reserve clipped to the side of your harness and use the other one like an Alfifi, clipping it into the lead biner. 

They are easy to reset one-handed without any mods, if you do this. The setup is cluster-free, while minimizing the potential for dropped gear. It is light and minimalistic. A nice innovation.

John Shultz · · Osaka, Japan · Joined Dec 2008 · Points: 50
Elaine Gilstrom wrote:

This is the way I did it. Honestly you could even fit larger cord in it.

If you are fully free hanging, you can even clip a sling or your aid ladder into it to get more force into it/make it easier to release.

That looks really interesting, but is it safe??? 

Oftentimes, these things are the only thing standing between me and the abyss   

I guess you would just slide to the end of the tail if it jammed open... but still

Elaine Gilstrom · · SF Bay Area, CA · Joined May 2019 · Points: 75
John Shultz wrote:

That looks really interesting, but is it safe??? 

Oftentimes, these things are the only thing standing between me and the abyss   

I guess you would just slide to the end of the tail if it jammed open... but still

I haven't had any issues with it yet, but I'm sure you can see I haven't put a ton of miles on them yet. The way I see it, the chance of the cam getting held open is slightly increased over how it typically is, but it isn't that large of an increased risk. I've also had a friend take the ride to to the stopper "knot" with an unmodified version and it was fine for him other than just scaring the crap out of him, so I'm not too worried about it, but that is just my personal judgement.

Connor Freefall · · Boulder Creek, CA · Joined Sep 2023 · Points: 76

Pardon my possible ignorance - seems like people are using their Connects in the general function of an Alfifi? My connects are only for keeping me from dropping my ladders or the occassional roof-aid. I would love to know for my learning under what circumstance most people are trying to release their connects under load?

Ricky Harline · · Angel's Camp, CA · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 147
Connor Freefall wrote:

Pardon my possible ignorance - seems like people are using their Connects in the general function of an Alfifi? My connects are only for keeping me from dropping my ladders or the occassional roof-aid. I would love to know for my learning under what circumstance most people are trying to release their connects under load?

Some people lead on daisies instead of an alfifi, yes. It is quite a bit less efficient but it does save one more thing from going through your hardpoints, so that's nice. Also I don't lead on daisies but I find myself needing to adjust under load all the time. It's a necessary feature in an adjustable daisy for me.

jt newgard · · San Diego, CA · Joined Jul 2016 · Points: 446

Does anyone recognize the below cord? Might be a half rope? I've used it extensively with the Camp Swings. It adjusts easily but doesn't slip. Unfortunately can't remember where I picked it up. Thanks

My favorite use case for these is being able to adjust the reach to my jumars easily. And get comfy at the anchor whilst hauling.

Mike J · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2023 · Points: 0
jt newgard wrote:

Does anyone recognize the below cord? Might be a half rope? I've used it extensively with the Camp Swings. It adjusts easily but doesn't slip. Unfortunately can't remember where I picked it up. Thanks

My favorite use case for these is being able to adjust the reach to my jumars easily. And get comfy at the anchor whilst hauling.

That looks like an Edelrid Swift.

jt newgard · · San Diego, CA · Joined Jul 2016 · Points: 446

Thank you Mike! Much appreciated. I started with scraps of this rope and it's high time to replace it finally.

Reassuring to look down and see a triple rated rope between me and big air. Of course I'm backed up...but still...y'all know what I'm talking about lol

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Big Wall and Aid Climbing
Post a Reply to "Petzl connect adjust, mod etc"

Log In to Reply
Welcome

Join the Community! It's FREE

Already have an account? Login to close this notice.