All day crag backpack

Hey Guys,

I am looking for a Crag Pack to throw everything in. 80m rope /ropebag Food/3l blatter 2 climbing harnesses/ helmets Sportdraws / carabiners.... Clipstick Jacket Shoes Book

Now i need and want a big pack. Tending to

Blue ice moonlight 55l

Blue ice octupus 45l they just brought out new versions

Myster ranch 47l Mountain hardware crag wagon 60l Bd creek 50l Bd stone duffel 42l Mammut neon gear 45l Northface cinder 55l Patagonia crag smith 45l Ospery farpoint 55l

They are so many back but what is the best?

What u guys have tell me why u love and hate! I really like the zipper styl packs.

My brother has a blue ice moonlight also really like it only thing is no removeable waist belt. No waistbelt zipper. Not really water proof.

Also i got a bd vapor it is fragile so i need a good spot for it.

I heard really bomber things about the myster ranch.

The Crag Wagon 60 is truly the most dumpster pack I’ve ever used, and I’ve worked few several of those listed above.

I just said goodbye to mine because it no longer fit my waist, but after two years of heavy use it had only scuffs to show. Also: you can fit an entire family into it.

Yay!!! Another crag pack thread!

Been using the BD creek 50 (the biggest one iirc) for a while now mostly haul my TR stuff since all my friends are moochers. 

Most things I've had in the Bag at one time with nothing hanging off the front...

2 pairs of climbing shoes

1 pair of sneakers

70m 9.8

~30m of static line 

Bag of slings 

Bag of carabiners

12 quickdraws 

6 alpine draws

1 L/XL helmet

Harness 

Lunchbox

Headlamp, glasses cleaner, chapstick, etc All in the front pocket 

It has a bunch of little loops on the outside with is nice for hanging stuff. The front zip pocket is also holds quite a bit, that's where I dump all the little stuff you were talking about.  Also I usually just lower the Bag down when I take it to TR so I don't have to wear it on the way down and I've had no tears, scuffs, etc. 

Hope this helps

Have used a crag wagon HARD for 4 years now. I'm kinda bored with it 'cause I like to try new/different stuff (wanna maybe try the BD Creek). I try to get outside 2x per week, usually I'm successful. I beat the ever lovin' crap outta that thing. I can't kill it, it refuses to die. It's barely showing signs of wear. It's gonna be a few years before I get to try something else. I guess that's a good thing.... ??

Another vote for the cragwagon 60 here. i've had mine for 4/5 years - best one I've had so far. Mainly used to carry trad gear for all day climbing fun.

"savery,"

Did you not like the suggestions you got on Reddit?

https://www.reddit.com/r/tradclimbing/comments/1cdc7g0/all_day_crag_pack/

I have the Mystery Ranch Tower 47 and really like it.  It has a lot of organization which works well for a crag pack, it carries really well which makes it easy to load it up heavy just in case you want your triple rack, it opens up wide and unrolls which makes it easy to park at the bottom of the wall and establish a comfortable habitat while your partner hang dogs on their 5.6 project.  The only gripe I have is that the back panel and shoulder straps end up in the dirt when the pack is opened up wide but this is easily solved by carrying a light tarp/ground cloth to lay down under the pack.

BD Creek 50 is sick.  Just wish it had side straps for the rope. 

I have owned 2 Crag Wagons and have had durability issues with both (e.g. G hook buckle snapped under normal use, internal frame has torn through the fabric). Mountain Hardwear's warrenty and customer support has been lacking in my experience as well. 

Love my Mammut Neon Gear 45. Just a nice simple bag that has a good amount of handles, can take a good amount of stuff, and a good amount of abuse. Only two pockets beside the main compartment, so not great if you love pockets, and no external ones. Does have a hydration sleeve though. Comes with a nice little rope tarp, too.