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saign charlestein · · Tacoma WA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 2,057

So I know the new tc pros and katanas have gone down a size (new 42 fits like the old 42.5) and I recently got a pair of miura lace in my old size that were way too big as well  Wtf!?!  Is all across the board?

So if you recently got a pair that have changed sizes please add them here as a psa so we have a list and know what size to get. 


Cheers

P B · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jun 2019 · Points: 62

Old Muira VS: 42.5

New Muira VS: 43

But maybe it was just a hot day? So hard to tell.

saign charlestein · · Tacoma WA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 2,057
P B wrote:

Old Muira VS: 42.5

New Muira VS: 43

But maybe it was just a hot day? So hard to tell.

So you think the sizing is smaller? Are you sure your old ones weren't clapped out and resoled a bunch or something? All of my experiences have been the new size is bigger

P B · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jun 2019 · Points: 62
saign charlestein wrote:

So you think the sizing is smaller? Are you sure your old ones weren't clapped out and resoled a bunch or something? All of my experiences have been the new size is bigger

I would guess they are the same and I just chose differently this time. I've heard it's just an aesthetics change from the folks at the Sportiva factory store in Boulder.

Colonel Sandbag · · Boston, MA · Joined Dec 2013 · Points: 76

i bought new katanas in my old katana size and I find them unbearably tight and unwearable. not sure if it's as simple as a size conversion. i think they snuck in some shape changes too.

Desert Rock Sports · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Aug 2019 · Points: 2

Hey,
So... these threads always pop up. If shoe sizes kept shrinking we would all be in baby shoes by now.

Be humble to the possibility that maybe, just maybe, your stretched out shoes don't fit like non-stretched out shoes anymore.

As well... people try on the new shoes in different situations. Sometimes their feet are sore and swollen from climbing or hiking, sometimes they are not, sometimes they have different socks (they tend to make about 1/3 of a size difference), sometimes they need to trim their nails. Sometimes the fit has changed, but not the length/size, strictly speaking. Everyone has a different foot shape and sometimes the shape of a shoe changes between versions enough to matter for some people but not others.

saign charlestein · · Tacoma WA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 2,057
Desert Rock Sports wrote:

Hey,
So... these threads always pop up. If shoe sizes kept shrinking we would all be in baby shoes by now.

Be humble to the possibility that maybe, just maybe, your stretched out shoes don't fit like non-stretched out shoes anymore.

As well... people try on the new shoes in different situations. Sometimes their feet are sore and swollen from climbing or hiking, sometimes they are not, sometimes they have different socks (they tend to make about 1/3 of a size difference), sometimes they need to trim their nails. Sometimes the fit has changed, but not the length/size, strictly speaking. Everyone has a different foot shape and sometimes the shape of a shoe changes between versions enough to matter for some people but not others.

Hey, 
So…. These comments always pop up. Some know it all doesn’t read what was actually being asked, and spouts off some, holier than thou comment.

It’s been pretty well documented that the tc pros and katanas have changed sizes (and possibly shape to make them fit differently), and I literally had old pairs and new pairs in my possession in the same sizes at the same time (since then have sold the new larger ones that didn’t fit right) and tried them on, and compared sizes with a ruler.

The brand new shoes are bigger than my well worn and broken in ones. Like way bigger. Especially the miura lace that hasn’t been updated


Thanks for wasting my time. I thought you had something relevant to contribute

David Burridge · · Simi Valley · Joined Oct 2018 · Points: 0

TC PRO: I went down a half size with the new version (new 45.5 fits like old 46). Both pairs are broken in and feel about the same size.

Jon Browher · · Wolfeboro, NH · Joined Jul 2018 · Points: 370

New TC pros fit exactly the same as the old ones after breaking in for me

saign charlestein · · Tacoma WA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 2,057
Bb Cc wrote:

I have several rulers and tape measures, even a bench mark or two: can anyone post a picture with the “way bigger” mark showing?

My old miuras are out getting resoled and I sold the new ones, but those were the biggest difference. It was huge. 


My performance size across the board has always been 42.5 but now that size is too big and I’ve been buying 42’s.

Eric Engberg · · Westborough, MA · Joined Feb 2017 · Points: 0
saign charlestein wrote:

It’s been pretty well documented that the tc pros and katanas have changed sizes 

Citation?

David Burridge · · Simi Valley · Joined Oct 2018 · Points: 0
Eric Engberg wrote:

Citation?

Directly from the company rep:

Brian · · North Kingstown, RI · Joined Sep 2001 · Points: 799

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/122716739/la-sportiva-tarantulace-sizing-has-changed

Josh S · · Kerhonkson, NY · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 0

I just got a new pair of Solution Comps and I'm 99% sure they're larger also. I've worn Solutions / Solution Comps for years and in a size 40 I've always needed about a week of using a plastic bag in the heel to get them on before they're broken in, but these go on easily with no bag and feel fairly loose...about what my 40.5s feel like or maybe even a touch bigger. Not sure if this was just a freak pair or if the size actually changed, but next time I buy a pair of Sportiva shoes I'll try them on even if I think I know my size.

Ryan Marsters · · Golden, CO · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 1,436

New fits larger in my experience. Old Katana 41.0 fit me like new katana 40.5. I unfortunately bought the new Katana in 41.0 first and had to off load them. 

My few pairs of old TCs had inconsistent sizing but I downsized the new ones just in case with no complaints. 

LL2 · · Santa Fe, NM · Joined Sep 2016 · Points: 174

If you’re older, your feet do change shape, spread out, flatten out, and maybe do get a half size or so “larger” in the process. In street shoes, I’ve found myself buying a half size up from what I’ve bought for the last 30 years. I’ve also found myself buying women’s climbing shoes as of late. 38.5 women’s vs. 38 men’s Sportiva. Better fit, more comfortable, I feel no less a man for having done so.

Josh S · · Kerhonkson, NY · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 0
LL2 wrote:

If you’re older, your feet do change shape, spread out, flatten out, and maybe do get a half size or so “larger” in the process. In street shoes, I’ve found myself buying a half size up from what I’ve bought for the last 30 years. I’ve also found myself buying women’s climbing shoes as of late. 38.5 women’s vs. 38 men’s Sportiva. Better fit, more comfortable, I feel no less a man for having done so.

Not sure if you were responding to me, but I’m comparing to solution comps purchased a few months ago, not years. Sizing is definitely different, with the brand new 40s larger than broken in 40s I have with me as well. 

Sam Zavislan · · Durango, CO · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 30

My old style Katana size was 41.5, so I bought the new style Katana in 2022 one half size smaller based on what other people said about the new style katana feeling larger. The new style Katana in size 41 fit very tight initially, but broke in perfectly within a couple weeks of climbing in them. I just ordered another pair of the same size Katana (41) in Dec. 2023, and I was shocked to find that the initial fit felt slightly larger than the well broken in pair I had in the same size. I'm not too concerned because the shoe is so stiff and will perform well as a crack climbing and multi-pitch shoe, but that's not what I bought the shoe for... 

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236
David Burridge wrote:

Directly from the company rep:

The sad thing is often company reps don't know their products particularly well, especially when it comes to behind the scenes technical details. 

If people actually want to get to the bottom of this just use a ruler instead of endlessly speculating on MP. 

David Swaine · · London, GB · Joined Feb 2018 · Points: 31
saign charlestein wrote:

So I know the new tc pros and katanas have gone down a size (new 42 fits like the old 42.5) and I recently got a pair of miura lace in my old size that were way too big as well  Wtf!?!  Is all across the board?

So if you recently got a pair that have changed sizes please add them here as a psa so we have a list and know what size to get. 


Cheers

La sportiva testerossas(2019) 36 feels like 37 to me.Miura VS LV (blue) 37 feels like 38+ to me.The futura (blue) 37 feel like 37.5 and feels both wider and higher volume.Different feeling shoe to the OG which I  used 2012-2017 approximately which was narrower/lower volume retained the down turn more and the heel fit was different There are very few shops in northern England where you can size shoes now. So apart from the solutions and the S heel shoes I'm very wary of purchasing new revamped older models now

Li Hu · · Different places · Joined Jul 2022 · Points: 55
David Burridge wrote:

TC PRO: I went down a half size with the new version (new 45.5 fits like old 46). Both pairs are broken in and feel about the same size.

Maybe even more for some? I’m seeing about 1.5 sizes? 

New to TC pros and bought them less than a year ago. I wear 45 in Scarpa Vapour V yet 43.5 in TC Pro. The pros are admittedly a bit tight but seem to fit well for small cracks and edges outside.

My Scarpa (45) fit perfectly and curl my toes nicely for edging in the gym.

The TC pro (43.5) are reasonably comfortable on multiple pitch climbs.

Went through 1 size adjustment with REI for the Scarpa. Tried 44 until I felt like my toes were breaking, after 3 months and 300+ climbs I exchanged them for 45. Perfect.

My comfortable street shoe size is 46 (toes have 1/2cm space for my longest toe), LaSportiva Nepal EVO is 47, 45 in Scarpa Vapour and 43.5 in TC Pro. I spent an hour or more fitting them. Have to trim the toenails back, but perfect.

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