Pants with built in belt?

Looking for climbing pants with the following

-built in belt/drawstring 

-very stretchy

-a zipper or button pocket 

-wider legs (no slim fit)

My only option now is the prana Zion pants but they don’t fit great and their a bit expensive.  Any leads?

I really like Lulu ABC Joggers for rock climbing. They tick all your boxes (which also happen to be my boxes), are more robust then they look, and are cinched at the ankles. 

I really like the Prana Zion as well.

My go-to alternative is whatever other pant is on sale, and then I have a few spare chalk bag belts that I use with them.  The joy of integrated belt is that it's so low profile, and the chalk bag belt does that for me.  I use the DMM, since it's slider wider than most, and also slightly longer.

OR Ferrosi (wait for a sale if you don't like the normal price).

Dave Baker wrote:

I really like the Prana Zion as well.

My go-to alternative is whatever other pant is on sale, and then I have a few spare chalk bag belts that I use with them.  The joy of integrated belt is that it's so low profile, and the chalk bag belt does that for me.  I use the DMM, since it's slider wider than most, and also slightly longer.

New prana zions (plastic button) are Garbo. I’ll be looking for an alternative when it comes time to replace them 

I got a pair of the old Arcteryx Gamma LT pants off MP and they might be my favorite pants atm. I have what some have described as “horse legs”, so I think they’d accommodate some serious thighs, as well as all your other requirements. Amazing stretch, solid built-in belt, all zippered pockets.

That said, they’re ridiculously expensive, and I wouldn’t ever pay anything close to full price.

Another vote for OR Ferrosi

My go-to the past couple years is the Kuhl Renegade Rock Pants. (No built-in belt, though.)  Stretchy, durable material, comfortable, and oodles of pockets—my favorites are the side leg pockets that perfectly accommodate a cell phone.  Zippered rear pocket and shock cord cinch at ankle. My buddy loves them, too, and he has tree trunks for thighs (Sequoia-sized).  A tad pricey, but when on sale they’re not bad.  I’ve had them on sharp limestone, granite, and sandstone, scraped them up thoroughly on multi-pitches, and no tears thus far.  I tried the Zions for a while, but the Kuhl’s pockets are better.  They seem to come in handy on multi-pitch routes.  

Columbia titanium!

I've had a pair of the Mountain Equipment Beta pants now for years and they have held up to serious abuse. The new version of them, called the Anvil, has an integrated belt and may be worth looking into. 

FWIW, I have just taken to adding Zion-like waist synch to all my pants.  I use a sewing machine, but you could easily hand sew them on. I use an accessory strap that has a very low profile buckle so I don't feel it if is under my harness.  Could use a simple plastic ladder lock type buckle & some cheap webbing to do same thing.  (I connect thru a belt loop so it doesnt ride up, but i have put them on my wife's pants without belt loops & work fine for her)

I have exact needs like you, I used to like the TNF Class V, but it discontinued!

I am looking for something like this with a built in belt, but a little heavier/warmer for colder climbing temps - more like a normal pant weight, don't need to be super stretchy.  I thought I had a winner with the Prana Kragg but I just blew the knees out in two pairs of them.  Willing to pay for expensive pants IF they are super durable.

Another vote for the OR Ferrosi 

Does anyone else have the button on their stretch zions pop off after a couple seasons from cinching the belt?? 

Prana Zion belt doesn't stay tight for me. Arcade belts (elastic, flat buckle) work great for technical pants though. 

Any suggestions for a pant with belt that's a little heavier than the Stretch Zions?  The Ferrosi is advertised as lightweight fabric so I am assuming it is similar to the Zion

Check out the "Wrangler ATG" line of pants. They're stretchy, durable, and some of the models have side pockets. Oh and there often cheaper than most options named so far. I found them at Target for $30. 

I personally love the Kühl renegade rock pants also but they are not cheap. 

I’m picky about my climbing pants and have the same list as you.  I have a few pairs of the BD Credo pants and have been happy with them.  I also have the Zion pants but the belt is better in the Credos in my opinion.  
Very comfy and so far they have been durable but I do t have a lot of climbing days in them yet.  

Chris, how heavy is the fabric in the Credo?  Lightweight like the Zion or thicker?

Cocoapuffs 1000 wrote:

Chris, how heavy is the fabric in the Credo?  Lightweight like the Zion or thicker?

It’s a tad thicker and not as much nylon in the pants.  It’s almost like a lightweight khaki with some stretch.  I really like the credo so far.