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Pin/bolt identification

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Austin Donisan · · San Mateo, CA · Joined May 2014 · Points: 721

Just for fun, does anybody recognize or know anything about this pin (bolt)?

Desert Rock Sports · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Aug 2019 · Points: 2

DBSM ? = Das Bondage & Sadomasochism?

Well it is climbing...

Austin Donisan · · San Mateo, CA · Joined May 2014 · Points: 721

I think I found another photo of the exact model. It turns out it does have an expansion mechanism.

Still unsure of the brand, I didn't think to look at the other side for some reason.

https://www.facebook.com/bolting.eu/posts/224690762274226
Austin Donisan · · San Mateo, CA · Joined May 2014 · Points: 721

I went back and took a photo of the other side for posterity. It's branded Salewa.

Ignatius Pi · · Europe · Joined Jun 2020 · Points: 13
Desert Rock Sportswrote:

DBSM ? = Das Bondage & Sadomasochism?

Well it is climbing...

I wonder whether it might stand for something like 'Das Bayerische Stahlschmiedefirma München'? Salewa were originally based in Munich and although the brand has for a long time included items of hardware I'm not certain whether or not they actually made any of it - but rather outsourced the manufacture to local engineering companies or to specialist climbing hardware manufacturers. The name Salewa derives from 'Sättel und Lederwaren', or similar - ie saddlery and leather goods - so the manufacture of hardware was clearly not their original core business; indeed I think that when they first got into mountain equipment it was with things like backpacks and ski poles - the latter, in those days, consisting substantially of wood/bamboo and leather. And I'm sure that engineering expertise wouldn't have been difficult to access in the home city of a company like 'Bayerische Motoren Werke'!



Ignatius Pi · · Europe · Joined Jun 2020 · Points: 13
Gunkswest wrote:

These are the type of "bolts" that were on the Compressor Route on Cerro Torre.

The Compressor Route bolts appear very similar but I don't think that they're exactly the same type or brand; they lack the slot in the end designed to accommodate a slim wedge to provide the expansion mechanism to which Austin refers - as such being interference-fit 'compression' bolts rather than the 'expansion' variety, and more usually found in hard rock-types like granite. They were also made in Italy - likely 'Cassin' brand which I think were actually manufactured by the Codega family company, better known now as CAMP. These details can be seen in this photo from Gripped magazine [and probably elsewhere] which I'm afraid I have no idea how to upload here!

https://gripped.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/bolts.jpg

Salamanizer Ski · · Off the Grid… · Joined Sep 2005 · Points: 19,814

That’s the one on the Nose isn’t it? 

Wolfo Vo · · Europe / Germany · Joined Oct 2023 · Points: 0

The bolts on the Compressor Route are italian "Cassin" ones, very similar to the Sticht. 

Usually they all had a straight rectangular shaft, but it was a common modification to saw the end in for 10...15mm and use a small wedge made from 1,5 or 2mm sheeting and filed sharp a bit to give them some compression.

Austin Donisan · · San Mateo, CA · Joined May 2014 · Points: 721
Salamanizer Skiwrote:

That’s the one on the Nose isn’t it? 

Yeah, at Camp IV

Salamanizer Ski · · Off the Grid… · Joined Sep 2005 · Points: 19,814
Austin Donisanwrote:

Yeah, at Camp IV

I haven’t seen that bolt in 17 years and recognized it immediately. 

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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