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Using the Edelrid HMS Bulletproof Triple FG Carabiner with a Grigri

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R Y · · Methow Valley · Joined May 2023 · Points: 0

Backcountry has a decent deal on the Edelrid HMS Bulletproof Triple FG Carabiner right now but the reviews regarding its usage with Grigris are concerning. Has anyone here used this specific carabiner with a grigri? If you do please let me know what model of grigri you have as well.

Thank you!

Greg R · · Durango CO · Joined Jan 2013 · Points: 10

Why bother using a steel inset biner with Grigri since the rope isn’t rubbing on biner anyway 

Edit: after reading the reviews that would really convince me not use it, just asking for trouble

Nkane 1 · · East Bay, CA · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 465

curious why you would use a bulletproof with a grigri? It seems like a waste of the big advantage of a bulletproof, which is durability where the rope runs over it. If the rope isn't running over the steel part, then it's just a big heavy carabiner.

CD Transporter · · Boise, ID · Joined Jun 2018 · Points: 47

The bulletproof has a wider i-beam style spine shape that causes the GriGri to bind up.

If you like Edelrid or that style of carabiner, have a look at the Edelrid Strike (aluminum) or Edelrid Bruce (steel), and position the GriGri under the cross-load spring side.

Chris Smead · · San Jose, CA · Joined Jan 2021 · Points: 0

I’m a huge fan of the Petzl Freino for grigri use. That spur is great for lowering. It’s ridiculously expensive though.  REI has it on sale for $37.  Thank goodness for REI dividends! 

Wictor Dahlström · · Stockholm · Joined Oct 2021 · Points: 0

Petzl advices against using an HMS with the Grigri. Why not use a small d-locker as recommended?

Sam Cook · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2021 · Points: 0

Yeah, I have that carabiner. I tried using it with the Grigri and it could usually clip but would get stuck unclipping. I wouldn't recommend it for a grigri. Now I just use a regular offset D carabiner for the grigri and use the edeldrid carabiner for tube-style belay devices.

Anna Brown · · New Mexico · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 6,028

Something like this biner should be all you need:

https://www.rei.com/product/111231/petzl-smd-twist-lock-autolock-carabiner

Connor Olsen · · Boulder, CO · Joined Oct 2022 · Points: 0

Have both and can confirm the gri gri gets stuck. Wouldn’t recommend using together

Desert Rock Sports · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Aug 2019 · Points: 2

2nd the Petzl Sm'D Twistlock. Even has the hole for the keeper cord mod.

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