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Someone recognize these cams?

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Leon A · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2022 · Points: 0

I got this cam pretty cheap and it's possibly quite old.

It would be nice to find out what brand and model it's is. Maybe someone here has used one before and can shed some light!

 Unfortunately there are no markings on the cam nor the sling. It still works quite nicely after some cleaning and with a new sling I would be happy to use it.

Scott Gilliam · · Raleigh, NC · Joined Oct 2003 · Points: 291

My guess would be an HB Wales cam.

Allen Sanderson · · On the road to perdition · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 1,100

Not a BD Camelot but another mfg. Several differences

  1. Slings were a solid color - though could have been re-slung.
  2. Lobes are anodized. Only the larger BD cams .5 and above were anodized
  3. Thumb is smooth, rather than knurled
  4. The swags are square, rather than cylindrical.
  5. Plastic piece covering the cable is shorter and does not have a ridge mid way
  6. Cam lobes are not the BD design. Multiple differences
Jay Anderson · · Cupertino, CA · Joined May 2018 · Points: 0

7. Single axle

Nick K · · Trumbull, CT · Joined Jul 2019 · Points: 0
Shaniac wrote:

BD Camelot, old version before there were thumb loops, look for an ID number on the lobes for more detail on year and such.

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/120348747/history-of-black-diamond-cams

Definetly not a black diamond cam. Yellow would mean a 0.2 but this cam is far too large. Also it's only single axle, has hexagonal swages on the wire stem, no texture on the trigger, no knurling on the thumb pad, and has dyneema in the sling.

See here for examples old BD micros

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/115143060/black-diamond-micro-camalots-super-strong-or-not

Allen Sanderson · · On the road to perdition · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 1,100
Jay Andersonwrote:

7. Single axle

The BD Micro Camelot .1 (Red) and .2 (Yellow) are single axle. .3 and above are double axle.

Nick K · · Trumbull, CT · Joined Jul 2019 · Points: 0
Allen Sandersonwrote:

The BD Micro Camelot .1 (Red) and .2 (Yellow) are single axle. .3 and above are double axle.

While true, this looks to be equivalent to at least a BD 0.3 if not closer to a 0.4 which would ave a double axle

Rocrates · · The Forum · Joined Apr 2020 · Points: 15

Definitely not Black Diamond. I think Scott got it. Here’s an HB Flexi-fix 2 Camming Device. Looks similar. The distinctive feature on the original cam is the diagonal machining on the aluminum right before the cam head in the first picture. The cam below doesn’t have the same feature but it’s close. 

There’s also a serial number on the trigger bar. Wonder if that sheds some light. 

Gunkiemike · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 3,732

It's not HB. HB's had a really annoying "feature": the thumb piece sits 90 degrees rotated compared to the BDs. This made it near impossible to get your thumb on the piece when you're holding the cam with fingers on the trigger bar as one normally does. See these HBs:

J.Frost · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 0

It’s a Lowe Alpine cam.

It’s not an HB flexi fit, they’re close, but the thumb press is different.

highaltitudeflatulentexpulsion · · Colorado · Joined Oct 2012 · Points: 35

Looks like a Clog to me, but the ones I’ve seen came with a solid color sling and no anodizing.

Could be a slightly newer clog. Salewa or HB come to mind too.

There really isn’t much value to it. If it works, use it. 

nutstory · · Ajaccio, Corsica, FR · Joined Jul 2014 · Points: 15

This is a Fan Cam marketed by Lowe Alpine in 1997, and made in Korea. The black plastic sheath was added a bit later. Greg Lowe used the name Fan Cam in the early 80s for one of his early prototypes that predated his Link Cam by 25 years.

Images from Climbing No 169 June-August 1997 & Climbing Gear Guide 1997.

Lowe Fan Cam in Rock & Ice 77 January-February 1997

Leon A · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2022 · Points: 0
J.Frostwrote:

It’s a Lowe Alpine cam.

It’s not an HB flexi fit, they’re close, but the thumb press is different.

Amazing these are exactly the right ones! Thanks a lot!

Do you still use them and are you satisfied with them?

Alex Ghiggeri · · Denver, CO · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 115

Ha! I bootied this cam off Castleton years ago.  I'll never forget it cause i also was investigating what brand it was.  I thought it was an old camp cam.  I sold it for like 5$ a few years ago.  I had it in denver where is it now?

Brotherhood of the traveling cam!

J.Frost · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 0
Leon Awrote:

Amazing these are exactly the right ones! Thanks a lot!

Do you still use them and are you satisfied with them?

Yeah, their nice quality single axle cams. I have nothing to complain about. The two I have are smooth, solid, and have held up really well.

Rack it up and send it like it’s 1999!

Silvia Bak · · Vancouver, BC, CA · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 0

Thank you for the info! I recently climbed a crack and an old cam stuck in the crack fell off! I clipped in it before it came out thinking it was totally stuck but immediately after I clipped, it fell off like ripe fruit 😳

I was wondering what brand it was. The only info was on the black plastic piece which said “Made in Korea”.

I thought it was a Clog cam but now I think it’s a Lowe Fan Cam! 🙌👌👏

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