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Honda Odyssey vs Toyota Sienna?
'John Rose wrote: any pics!?!?! |
Levi Goldman wrote: Hit me up on IG @otis_spunkmeyer just comment on a photo as messages get lost sometimes. I can send you photos of my setup. It's basically reduced to a weekend warrior with a singe/double bed and I throw a cooler, camping stove, and a crate for whatever else I need for the weekend. I keep all my gear under the bed in storage. |
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They're honestly both good, just get good tires, as someone said. Toyota tax is real, but there's a similar Odyssey tax as they're so popular, so I'd just jump on the first good one you get in your price range. |
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I wound up with a 2010 front wheel drive sienna. AWD would've been cool, but this one was thousands cheaper, and I don't have to replace all the tires at once. It's super comfortable on long drives, and plenty of room to crash in the back. I don't feel like I need a buildout for long weekend trips - if I ever get fired up to road trip around for weeks at a time, I'll think about it. |
Lothian Buss wrote: Well done. The build quality on that generation is amazing, and u got the last year so the most refined, (i bought a low mileage 2009 for my dad) and awd is a bit overrated/expensive. That rig will last forever. I have a promaster but miss my 2000 sienna (gen 1)… |
Lothian Buss wrote: I have a minimal build in my 2006 Toyota Sienna that is totally stealth complete with bed(single that can slide out to a double), 100w of solar not visible, 1500w battery, toilet, dometic fridge, under bed storage, 4gallon water jug, etc. If you want some photos hit me up on IG at @otis_spunkmeyer and I'd be happy to share my build with you. Taking the back bench out of the floor took 15 minutes and made things open up a lot for storage as well. I can even fit my 29er mountain bike inside the van with me. |
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Well, I loved that 2010 toyota sienna, but the transmission just failed. The vehicle was pretty beat to begin with, looks like I'm starting again from square one. If anyone is selling a 2010 toyota sienna near southwest colorado, all wheel drive prefered, let me know! |
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Bummer, u can’t just repair it? Also how many miles were on it? This time, spend more and get a clean one, maybe fly to CA bay area to pick it up. Btw i made the same error for myself with my gen 1, wish i would have paid more for a babied one. But at the time i only wanted to prove the concept was valid, then discovered it was awesome, then wished it were nicer, but felt entrenched with the one i had. Anyhow, at least u r forced into a redo. |
Levi Goldman wrote: 100%. I learned this lesson too. Pay more up front because you'll end up paying later in repairs or for another ride. For my last car I looked for about 3 months before I found what I was looking for. I found an 8 year old car with only 28,000 miles that was like new, for half the cost. |
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There were so many little issues with that last one. Windshield, quarter panel, rotors, etc, etc, etc. Even if I buy a used transmission of unknown origin, the transmission repair alone will likely be at least 4 grand. Over six, with a warrantied transmission. I think that money would be better spent on a better condition car. I think I'll have to find one outside my area. Maybe find a local mechanic willing to check it out, and a seller willing to drop it off for the local mechanic. Then have it trucked to me. There's promising options in Virginia, Wyoming and Texas, all relatively rust free places. That last one definitely proved the concept. Loved that thing. |
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Have fun with the search and let us know! |
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There's tons of used Siennas, but not many with AWD. That's the challenge. The trannies are usually pretty good in them, bummer yours went out. I beat the living crap out of my Sienna, towing a 6x10 enclosed trailer that was pushing 3,000 lbs. I went through brakes pretty quickly (the trailer didn't have brakes) but the tranny held up. But it didn't have a ton of miles. I think I bought it with 86K and sold it with about 140K. And man that thing was a dog when I sold it. 4 bald tires. Dents/scrapes on most body panels. Electric door broken. Rat holes in the seats. And I still got enough for it and paid so little for it that cost of ownership was very low for me. |
Glowering wrote: I probably would have bought it : P. What kind of vehicle did you wind up with? |
Lothian Buss wrote: Yeah agree with the others. Would consider fixing it. Especially if you built it out. How many miles did you have? Is the rest working ok? Did you ever change the transmission fluid? Toyotas usually do pretty well. I suspect it wasn't well taken care of before you got it. If everything else is working well, might be worth a new transmission vs buying another one with a questionable service history. |
Lothian Buss wrote: The vehicle I got with 28K is a top of the line Prius Plug In Hybrid which I love. Averaging 60 mpg. The battery will store about 10 miles of free charge on a long downhill. Room for four 6' people. Toyota's Hybrid system is great, super efficient and reliable and it's no surprise they're putting them in most of their vehicles nowadays. I have a 4WD truck for when the Prius won't work, but 90% of my miles go on the Prius. P.S. I agree with getting rid of your Sienna and finding a new one. It'll probably end up cheaper in the long run. If the tranny went out, who knows what else is a ticking time bomb. A funny thing I heard when looking for a used car is look to see if all 4 tires have caps on the valve stems. If they do the owner is possibly fastidious. If any are missing the owner doesn't pay attention to details. I try to find one owner cars that are in excellent condition, with as low a miles as I can/want to pay. My truck is a 1999 diesel and had almost 200K on it when I bought it but it looked like new. The original owner got the oil changed every 3,000 miles and had it cleaned and washed every month. I love my truck too. It put 25K on it and it's worth more now than what I paid for it 7 years ago. |
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Glowering, assuming you're well aware of this (I had no idea for the first six years of ownership!) but a 6-2 dude (or gal) can sleep very comfortably in your prius. Blew my mind, I hardly ever tent camp nowadays. Passenger side only (driver side can only accommodate a person 5-11 or under), push front seat all the way forward, adjust recline to straight up, fill gap with gear bags, finish with ropes for perfect level, put down Nemo Roamer or similar air mat, viola, as comfortable as a $2K mattress at home, no joke.   You can even sleep two if you’re willing to spend 10min playing tetris with everything into the front  |
K Dub wrote: I bought it with about 170,000 miles, It had about 180,000 miles when it went out. Lots of cosmetic and minor problems when I bought it that I was fixing as I got around to it. For all I know, the trans fluid had NEVER been changed. The shop wants 6 grand to replace the trans with a warranteed refurbished one. I paid 4 grand for the van in the first place. |
Christian Hesch wrote: Good to know, thanks! I haven't slept in my Prius, my wife has, but she's 5'7". We have multiple vehicles and we're always playing musical chairs deciding what to bring. Usually trying to bring the smallest/best mpg vehicle. We've done camping trips with a family of 4 in the Prius (we had a long drive and only two nights camping) and it was a challenge. What made it work is a roof box. I have a Yakima rack for the Prius and a Yakima SkyBox 16 which adds a lot of storage space (I put everything light weight in it). So much less playing tetris to get everything out of the way. I also use the roof box on my Subaru stock roof rack for skis, etc. it's super handy. |
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The correct answer is an AWD Astro |
Lothian Buss wrote: That's some really bad luck man. I'm sorry. It was probably never changed. Should be changed every 30-50,000 miles. If you can locate another one, have a good mechanic look it over before you buy. It's worth the $200 or so. And change all the fluids, transmission and differential fluid (if you can get AWD) too. That's how you get these Toyotas to go forever.
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