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Frequently Asked Red Rock Questions with Links to the Answers (Updated/Fixed 1/2023)
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Everything Red Rock. Please use this resource before asking questions in the forum. Some info is clearly old…. However, updates are on the way. If you have anything to add, please don’t hesitate to offer that information. Main red rock page with current weather and late exit pass info: https://www.mountainproject.com/area/105731932/red-rocks Map with climbing areas labelled: Get it here Background info regarding the map: https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/108634223/new-map-for-red-rock-canyon Weather info: Is the rock wet? Wet Rock Police: https://wetrockpolice.com/redrock (not very reliable) NOAA: http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=vef&sid=RRKN2&num=168&raw=0&dbn=m Red Rock weather links below. The rain gauge is at the visitor's center area, so it's not measuring the actual weather in the canyons. But it's the only gauge we have, and at least gives you some idea if you should even bother. Takes at least a couple days after 0.10+" rain for all the rock to be dry. Exposed areas that see a lot of sun perhaps less time. For Red Rock forecast, save this link: https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=36.0983&lon=-115.4675 Future Weather Prediction: https://www.visualcrossing.com/legacy/weather/weather-event-planner Recent rainfall [also shows percent of sun and wind to help guestimate rate of drying]: https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=vef&sid=RRKN2&num=3000&raw=0&dbn=m https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/112429728/options-in-case-of-red-rock-rain https://www.google.com/search?q=weather+red+rock+canyon Rain in red rock: reasons to wait for it to dry https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/107316514/rain-and-safety Where to climb when it rains Climb Limestone. Guidebook: Mojave Limestone (Handren), Limestone Bible (Misty Murphy), Islands in the Sky Where?: Mount Charleston, La Madre Range (Gun Club, Lone Mt, Trench Town, Water World, etc.) Arrow Canyon, Blue Diamond, Christmas Tree Pass, Keyhole Canyon, Mormon Mountains, Mount Potosi, Nelson, Rainbow Canyon…. https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/112429728/options-in-case-of-red-rock-rain https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/107316514/rain-and-safety sunny routes/cold weather climbing https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106981778/south-facing-walls-or-december-doables https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106340283/south-facing-multi-pitch-moderates-for-winter https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106632423/single-pitch-red-rocks-suggestions-for-winter https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106325652/sunny-warm-route-suggestions shady routes https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106560074/shady-cragging-at-red-rocks https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106422908/cool-moderates-for-a-1-day-stop-at-red-rocks https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106419037/long-shaddy-red-rock-routes https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106375780/where-to-find-shade-at-red-rock-in-may https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106288877/shady-sport-routes-in-red-rocks Good routes less traveled https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/107084359/red-rocks-less-busy-routes Good beginner routes https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/107297379/red-rock-newbies-recommendations#a_107297658 Best guidebook (For Climbs, just get the most recent Handren book from Desert Rock Sports) Handren book (Red Rock): https://www.redrocksguidebook.com/ Handren Book, Mohave Limestone (Southern NV Limestone): https://www.mojavelimestone.com/ https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106985426/red-rock-canyon-guide-books-suggestion https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106592452/best-guide-for-rr Guidebook for bouldering: https://www.snellpress.com/product-page/southern-nevada-bouldering-ii Guide services: Before hiring a guide, be sure to ask about their qualifications and if they are permitted for the climbing areas you plan to hire them for. There are several pirate guides out there. Red Rock Mountain Guides: https://www.redrockclimbingcenter.com/climbingguides Mountain Skills: http://www.climbingschoolusa.com/ The Mountain Guides (Jackson Hole Mt Guides): https://themountainguides.com/ Exum Mountain Guides: https://exumguides.com/ https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/110534309/guide-service-recommendations-red-rocks Hotel recommendations: https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106933837/hotel-recommendations https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106351017/best-hotelmotel-for-rr https://www.reddit.com/r/climbing/comments/96ebkq/red_rock_climbers_where_to_stay/ Local homes for short term rental Looking for a cheap place to park your vehicle or van in Las Vegas? Check out Neighbor.com and hipcamp.com Camping info and related threads (More info on main RR page): https://www.redrockcanyonlv.org/camping-at-red-rock-canyon/ https://www.recreation.gov/camping/campgrounds/250877 https://www.blm.gov/visit/red-rock-canyon-campground Lovell Canyon: https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/121407560/lovell-canyon-camljnv-red-rock https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106905866/blm-listed-alternative-camp-facilities https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106337916/where-do-you-camp-here https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106121354/camping-other-than-at-red-rocks-campground https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/105909254/problems-with-camp-hosts-at-13-mile Skid Row Camping (not sure how long it will last due to so many complaints (Just east of Red Rock entrance by detention basin): https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/122383534/skid-row Weather information broken down by month (refer back to the top of this post for shady or sunny route information) February: https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106639284/hows-the-weather-generally-in-late-february August: https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106209874/red-rocks-temps-in-early-august September: https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106505519/climbing-in-red-rocks-in-september October: https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106908738/average-temps-and-shady-locations November: https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106884315/november-in-red-rock https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106287578/black-velvet-november-and-sun https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106228016/november-climbing-weather December: https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106854658/december-in-red-rocks https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106550162/climbing-in-red-rocks-december-and-january What happens when the loop closes and you don’t have a late exit pass https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/123374668/red-rock-canyon-13-mile-loop-gates More resources and related links: https://www.redrockcanyonlv.org/ https://climbingredrock.com/rock-climbing/ Graffiti: If you see any graffiti, please report it by emailing BLM_NV_PR_graffiti@blm.gov. Include good quality color photos and a detailed location. GPS coordinates are the best and can be found on your phone’s map. If GPS isn’t available, as detailed of a location as possible with miles from trailhead, distance off trail, cardinal direction, and approximate height will help them find the graffiti. You can also report graffiti to the BLM’s Law Enforcement Officers at 702-293-8932. Do not confront anyone you see or suspect of this crime but do note details to provide to the officers Friends of Red Rock graffiti removal You can help remove graffiti from Red Rock in several ways: 1. Become a member of Friends of Red Rock Canyon to support our ongoing efforts at preserving and protecting this very special place. 2. You can also join our Graffiti Removal Team and become a part of our work to keep Red Rock Canyon a graffiti free zone. Additional volunteers are being trained to remove graffiti and will be working hard to restore the park to its natural beauty. 3. Send your vandalism photos and the GPS location (use UTM NAD 83 if possible) to:preserve@friendsredrock.org. Route Development (Bolting): Do not bolt in the wilderness areas. Here is a interactive map that shows the wilderness areas where bolting is not allowed. 1. Don't bolt in wilderness areas except for ASCA bolt/anchor replacement efforts. No bolting at Mt Charleston, big portion of La Madre and almost all of Red Rock, with the exception of calico I & II 2. Don't bolt within 50' of petroglyphs 3. Use only stainless steel hardware with the appropriate length and diameter for sandstone 4. Don't add bolts to established routes 5. Minimize the use of hardware whenever possible 6. Consider painting hardware for camouflage in high traffic areas |
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Great work! Thanks for taking this on! |
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Anyone else having issues downloading the map with the gps info? I also tried going to the website linked in the thread but had no luck there either. |
Climb On wrote: Unfortunately, I cannot attach the file to the post. If the link doesn't work, send me a message and I will get it to you. I will look into hosting the file somewhere other than google and update the link to match. |
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Glad shademap.app got added to this. |
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To add to the top of the OP post, this, or something similar to try to (probably mostly unsuccessfully) cut down on the amount of timed entry reservation and late exit questions: Scenic Drive Hours Nov – Feb – 6:00 AM to 5:00 PM
Late exit pass system The late exit pass system has changed from what it was in the past where you just called a number and left your details. Now you have to also go through recreation.gov to get one. All the details are here: https://www.recreation.gov/activitypass/f4d17453-0cba-11eb-b57c-4a047fce61ec Just do it. Its easy to get delayed on big multipitch days what with potential crowds, rope snags, etc... On the plus side, its $0.50 (cheap!) Don't count on having clear enough cell service in the loop to do it while you are out there on some route. Just do it in advance. Where you type in the route you will do, I'd also consider typing any backup route you have in mind. Its late exit from the loop that it is covering... if you didn't access your climb from driving into and parking in the loop, it isn't required. Lottery / Permit for a route No such system is in place. Chill. When you are driving West from Las Vegas out to Red Rock Canyon on Charleston Blvd, Calico Basin is the area you will see on the right, with some houses. Kraft Boulders is accessed from here, as well as Cannibal Crag, Red Riding Wall, Sunny and Steep, etc... In the future this area may become gated and require a permit for those who don't live there. Lots of controversy around this. For now though, you can pretty much access this area whenever, BUT the main parking areas for Red Springs Picnic area and to access Kraft Mountain do have gates and posted hours. There is some options for parking outside of these lots. There is also many people living here who are quite fed up with climbers parking to block their driveways, etc... so if you are going to try to park in this are for night bouldering in the summer, please try to be reasonable. Camping, including car camping is not permitted here. Accessing climbing without using the Scenic Loop There are many dirt parking areas along the highway that you can park at and hike into Red Rock to climb. Typically this only makes sense for accessing climbs in Oak Creek, Mt Wilson, First Creek, Southern Outcrops. These are not subject to the Scenic Loop hours or require any kind of permit or fee. Don't camp here. Thus you can start earlier than 6am and/or finish much later than normal if you have massive objectives, are trying to get in front of groups entering the scenic loop at 6am, are just not confident of your speed, etc... Black Velvet Canyon, Mud Spring, Windy Peak, Southern Outcrops... Some accessed via parking off the highway or with a short random dirt road... Or via the Late Nite trail system parking lot and a decently long dirt road. Also don't camp anywhere around here. |
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Great info Travis The late exit pass is $0.50 The loop road reservation time slot allows for entry up to 30 minutes in advance, so if you have a 10:00am-11:00am entry window, you can arrive at the gate as early as 9:30am to get in |
