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Accidents in North America Climbing

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Yoda Jedi Knight · · Sandpoint, ID · Joined Apr 2019 · Points: 0

I have a lot of criticisms about this chart but there are some interesting takeaways. First let me say, I don't know anything about how this data is collected or if the data represents non-fatal or both fatal and non-fatal accidents. Maybe somebody can chime in here.

The biggest takeaways for me were the following:

  • rappelling accidents aren’t as dangerous likely as falling accidents (4% vs 49%)
  • same with gear pulling out/failure (nuts/cams + pitons/screws + equipment failure = 4%)
  • weather and natural disasters make up about 14% of accidents (avalanche, rock/ice fall, crevasse, lightning - [12% without crevasse]) 
  • user error/inexperience makes up about 25% of accidents (I'm combining quite a few categories here)
  • these categories suck

Edit: full size image here

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 276

If you were writing your own compilation of climbing accidents, what would you do differently?

Aaron K · · Western Slope CO · Joined Jun 2022 · Points: 325

While Accidents' incident reports are fantastic, their "analysis" is pretty meaningless.

If an inexperienced climber takes a lead fall and rips gear resulting in an injury, is that due to "fall or slip on rock," "exceeding ability/inexperienced," or "nut/cam pulled out?" All three? How is that categorization made? It seems to me that you could make the data say whatever you want just by choosing categories.

Pete Nelson · · Santa Cruz, CA · Joined Nov 2012 · Points: 27

Yeah, apart from the pretty colors, that figure is remarkably uninformative...surely they've got someone who knows something about quantitative analysis?!

David House · · Boulder, CO · Joined Nov 2001 · Points: 468

I noticed that the data goes all the way back to the 50's, I wonder what it would look like if you just used the last 20 years worth. Climbing has changed so much since the 50's and anecdotally there are a lot of lowering and rapping accidents.

Adam bloc · · San Golderino, Calirado · Joined Dec 2012 · Points: 3,160

But what category did this guy who got totally CONED fall into??

Arnav V · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2019 · Points: 40
Adam bloc wrote:

But what category did this guy who got totally CONED fall into??

There's a thread by the guy who got injured here. https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/120894130/anal-impalement Most excruciating thing I've ever read. 

Leo Paik · · Westminster, Colorado · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 22,830

FWIW, I had concerns back a long time ago about the database. I contacted the ANAM editor at the time, Jed Williamson. I found out a lot about what they do and how limited some information is. Jed actually suggested that I send him info. With that effort, he actually came out and visited my home and chatted with me. Since, there have been additional subsequent editors. It's a tough job. They rely on us climbers to send info. Some info comes from newspapers, TV news, personally witnessed issues, websites such as this, and word of mouth.

Jeremy Bauman · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Feb 2009 · Points: 1,047

https://internal.rockymountainrescue.org/publications/2012_RMRG_Boulder_Eldo_Rock_Climb_Accidents.pdf

This report from RMRG in Boulder had rappel & belay errors making up just 21% of technical accidents. Compared with 30% for lead fall related accidents. 

Al Pine · · Shawangadang, NY · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 0

While rappel errors make up a smaller percentage of accidents, I’d be surprised if the majority of that percentage did not have a fatal outcome. IMO the consequence of an error on rappel seems much higher compared to a lead fall related accident. The chart provides no definitive information about the outcomes.

Yoda Jedi Knight · · Sandpoint, ID · Joined Apr 2019 · Points: 0
Al Pine wrote:

While rappel errors make up a smaller percentage of accidents, I’d be surprised if the majority of that percentage did not have a fatal outcome. IMO the consequence of an error on rappel seems much higher compared to a lead fall related accident. The chart provides no definitive information about the outcomes.

Great point. I’ll change the wording in my post.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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