Best low rise climbing harnesses?

So I need a harness with a very low rise, I've tried all the popular brands, black diamond, arcteryx, dmm, petzl, etc issue is they all end up crushing my ribs, the only harnesses I have found that actually work for me and are comfortable are edelrid. Issue is they suck in every other way, the the gear loops are weird and poorly thought out, the face fabric isn't durable enough and even things like getting the webbing out of the way is a pain.

So does anyone else know what other brands offer a low rise, I basically just want a bd solution guide but any harness that fits well and is suitabley beefy I would be happy with. 

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I really wish i left this in, don't suggest MM or Yates, I'm based in the UK, I'm not ordering a custom harness from the US. 

I've never had that problem with any of my harnesses.

You must be a rail. Try getting fat, develop a large ass. 

I have a misty mountain bolt harness that seems more low rise than my old black diamond solution, ymmv

There is a customize option on their website but I have no experience with it

I had a petzl hirundos that was super low rise, that might be worth checking out 

lots of harnesses have adjustable rise.... thats what the adjustable elastic in the back of some harnesses is for.
Unless you mean something else.

Metolius has a great built in adjustable rise. I use one of their harnesses and the adjustable rise works well and actually has a wide spectrum. It can take a beating and still look relatively unworn. It is very comfy to hang in. The big downfall for me is that my harness doesn't have a rear 5th loop and the loops are rounded opposed to formed and flat like a lot of the newer style harnesses (arcteryx, mammut, etc). I think the loops are also a bit small and this mean the gear slides to the center and then pinches on top of itself when heavily loaded.

Mitchell L wrote:

I had a petzl hirundos that was super low rise, that might be worth checking out 

The issue with petzl is all their gear loops are complete crap, whoever thought attaching the gear loops to the harness with a soft loop is an idiot and yet they keep doing it! BD loops are the shit why everyone doesn't copy them idk. 

Metolius (the adjustable ones)

Mr Rogers - The leg loop adjustment in the back is NOT for adjusting the rise.  The rise in a climbing harness is the relationship between waist and leg loops when you are hanging.  Too little rise, and you are more likely to invert in a fall.  Too much, and you will do hanging belays from your waist, with very little support from your leg loops.

As others have stated, Metolius makes harnesses with adjustable rise.  When you buy one, you can decide how much you like, adjust it once, and you are all set for as long as you own the harness.

I chased up on the metolius suggestion sadly no one in the UK stocks them, I called the last place in the uk that stocked them but they said they stopped carrying them years ago, people just bought the BD big gun for their big walling needs after that metolius never sold. 

Upon doing more research it appears i am on the absolute lowest end of normal when it comes to space between my ribs and hip bones, leaving me with a very small rise and I guess no where for a harness to comfortably sit unless it's well bellow my waist. 

I suppose you are already tying in with the smallest possible loop to cinch the upper and lower hardpoints together?

Be careful not to sacrifice safety for comfort. The harness still needs to sit above your hip bones or you risk slipping out of it when inverted, and with a low rise inversion is more likely.

acrophobe wrote:

Mr Rogers - The leg loop adjustment in the back is NOT for adjusting the rise.  The rise in a climbing harness is the relationship between waist and leg loops when you are hanging.  Too little rise, and you are more likely to invert in a fall.  Too much, and you will do hanging belays from your waist, with very little support from your leg loops.

As others have stated, Metolius makes harnesses with adjustable rise.  When you buy one, you can decide how much you like, adjust it once, and you are all set for as long as you own the harness.

 

Considering I have made custom harnesses with metolious and that’s called the rise adjustment I’ll have to disagree.

You shorten the adjustment in the back the harness cannot rise as much in the waist. 

As you stated it’s about shortening the distance from the leg loops to the harness which the rise adjustment does….

I had my friend talk to his wife who has been a designer at a few big name brands and basically the rise is determined by the length of the webbing connected to the leg loops and the belay loop, taking a few normal examples. 

BD and arcteryx have a "normal" rise and fairly typical length of webbing between the leg loops. I have highlighted the specific part of webbing that determines the rise so its clear. 

Now to compare with edelrid(my harness) which has a very short rise. 

Some brands have decided to just having a longer belay loop for more rise(womens models) but this only effects standing comfort. When hanging or loading the harness the tie in loops always pull together making the length of the belay loop inconsequential.

This doesn't get me any closer to a better alternative to edelrid but at least I've learned something. 

Mr Rogers wrote:

Considering I have made custom harnesses with metolious and that’s called the rise adjustment I’ll have to disagree.

You shorten the adjustment in the back the harness cannot rise as much in the waist. 

I think you'll find your mistaken, even on the metolius website they talk about how their adjustable rise is done through the buckles on the leg loops, the back elastic parts are called risers but they do not effect the rise of the harness. 

I digress somewhat as there are 2 adjustments that relate to rise in the metolious safetech/waldo platform. And yes, the front rise adjustment shortens the bridge making it rise less.
However, both the back and front adjustments do have effect on how far the harness rises. Brand and model dependent of course.
A way you can adjust the rise down on the front of a harness that has no way to adjust it is by putting a ring open though the tie in loops, effectively lowering the front rise.