Teton Backcountry permit

So I am planningto climb Teton in Aug and time are quite limited due to work so we are just able to fly in the day before we want to climb. Wondering whether we can have somebody help us pick up a permit ahead of time? Does it have to be the climber to pick up the permit? If so, can anyone help on it?

We can only flying in aug12 and want to climb at aug13.

Are you planning on camping? You only need a permit if you intend to camp. 

Irreverent Bastard wrote:

Are you planning on camping? You only need a permit if you intend to camp. 

probably yes, just in case weather change and we need to wait...and I think all climb requires a permit?

The Grand?  Sounds like you’ll be doing it IAD.  You’re not going to get a permit and it would be freakishly generous for someone to help you as it’s a huge pain in the butt - also pretty sure the trip leader has to be present.  You do not need a permit for the climbs, just the bivies.

As james said. You don’t not need a permit to climb, only to camp…

I’d help out if I was a local! Good luck 

James W wrote:

The Grand?  Sounds like you’ll be doing it IAD.  You’re not going to get a permit and it would be freakishly generous for someone to help you as it’s a huge pain in the butt - also pretty sure the trip leader has to be present.  You do not need a permit for the climbs, just the bivies.

Hmm, I see -- I see you point! Thanks!

Why can't you do this online?

Nick Battaglia wrote:

Why can't you do this online?

Cause the permits are "Walk in" that is you walk in to the ranger station and get your permit.

Allen Sanderson wrote:

Cause the permits are "Walk in" that is you walk in to the ranger station and get your permit.

Yeah but what's the point of it I mean? Seems like a major inconvenience to just I don't know, let an nps employee see the person trying to get a permit? Trying to ensure people don't register and then never show up?

Online opens something like 5 months in advance and fills quickly.  Some number of permits are held for walk in.  In both cases, you have to show up to the ranger station and be told how not to act like a clueless d-bag in the park, including food storage and wag bag orientation.  The range is complex, so most have a lot of questions and the rangers have lots of photos. 

Also,  I have noticed with general online reservations in the National Park campgrounds that there are a ton of no-shows.  There doesn't seem to be incentives to cancel the reservations and they fill up immediately.   Jenny Lake was half empty but reserved.   There were sites on either side of us that were reserved for several days.   We saw no one in them.   The camp host said it has become very common.   I imagine if all backcountry permits were online the same thing would happen.

You could have a refundable no-show fee, refundable upon sending a pic of your campsite during your stay or something. Some nps employee still gets a job by having to open up the pic and click refund. You could have a video play during the online reservation process of how important wag bags are and what leave no trace means. Then every climber who ever wants to climb in the tetons non car2car doesn't have to take vacation time, arrange care of their kids if they have them, incure travel expense, show up at 8 o clock in the morning and stand in line, all to perhaps find out that there is in fact a bivy permit available. Or, that they are all gone, and in that case waste hundreds if not thousands of dollars for a wasted effort. 

Nick Battaglia wrote:

Yeah but what's the point of it I mean? Seems like a major inconvenience to just I don't know, let an nps employee see the person trying to get a permit? Trying to ensure people don't register and then never show up?

Welcome to the world of too many people in the parks. There is no good solution. Show up with plan a, plan b, and plan c.

Nick Battaglia wrote:

You could have a refundable no-show fee, refundable upon sending a pic of your campsite during your stay or something. Some nps employee still gets a job by having to open up the pic and click refund. You could have a video play during the online reservation process of how important wag bags are and what leave no trace means. Then every climber who ever wants to climb in the tetons non car2car doesn't have to take vacation time, arrange care of their kids if they have them, incure travel expense, show up at 8 o clock in the morning and stand in line, all to perhaps find out that there is in fact a bivy permit available. Or, that they are all gone, and in that case waste hundreds if not thousands of dollars for a wasted effort. 

If you aim for 8am you will be sadly disappointed