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Advice for a summer mountaineering hardshell

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Fabien M · · Cannes · Joined Dec 2019 · Points: 5

After 6 years of regular use my Rab Flashpoint is really giving up. That's too bad because I really dig this jacket and also Rab does not currently have an equivalent.

Therefore m looking for a new summer companion, my criterias are:

Sub 200 grams
Helmet compatible
Don't want to go with something less tear resistant (trail running style for example)
Must have a way to seal the bottom and the wrists
Zero to one pocket max

I saw the Patagonia Storm10 but I would really prefere to stay under 200 grams for this one.
Any other options I should look into?
Any suggestion is appreciated, even better if you have first hand experience with it.
Thanks!

Ps: please don't bother to post if it's just to try to convince me I need something different ;)

Nkane 1 · · East Bay, CA · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 465

OR Helium II. I've been pretty happy with it.

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236

Alpha sl is an option, but I personally don't think it holds a candle to the old alpha fl

Eli W · · Oregon · Joined Aug 2021 · Points: 0

https://www.nwalpine.com/collections/mens/products/eyebright-jacket

Personally, I use a gore r7 I got cheap if I expect to keep it in my pack, but NW alpine makes great stuff and if you don’t mind making your bank account lighter as well it looks pretty sweet.  Not a ton of options if you want a helmet compatible hood under 200g.

Kai Larson · · Sandy, UT · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 441
Scott Miller · · Ogden, UT · Joined Jun 2019 · Points: 2

I've got a Norvan SL that I picked up on a bargain. Surprisingly durable and keeps me dry. Does very little to keep the wind off, though. I skied in it for late spring storms and it worked wonderfully. Packs down to nothing, and weighs so little I throw it in every pack without ever really thinking about it.

It hits most of the points you're looking for. The arms seal well, the hood won't fit over a helmet, but is tight enough to put under a helmet. No pockets.

Fabien M · · Cannes · Joined Dec 2019 · Points: 5
Eli W wrote:

https://www.nwalpine.com/collections/mens/products/eyebright-jacket

  Not a ton of options if you want a helmet compatible hood under 200g.

Thanks for the suggestions guys!

Indeed, I encouraged Rab to release a Flashpoint 2.0, I really do think there is a market for it. 

This NWAlpine is pricy my god, especially for a backup shell, also it looks more like a trail running jacket. 

The Zpacks Vertice looks sweet maybe a bit weak for my use (7 deniers is not much...)
The dead bird jacket is again more of a trail running jacket.
The OR Helium seems flimsy to be honest, also no word on hood compatibility and not cuff closure system.

The quest continues, or may end up with me buying a Patagonia Storm10 and saving the added weight somewhere else.

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236
Fabien M wrote:

The dead bird jacket is again more of a trail running jacket.

You mean this jacket? 

Scott Miller · · Ogden, UT · Joined Jun 2019 · Points: 2
that guy named seb wrote:

You mean this jacket? 

Nah he meant the Norvan.

Fabien M · · Cannes · Joined Dec 2019 · Points: 5

Indeed I was refering to the Norvan . 

The Alpha SL may be a good option but I m unsure about the real life use of the pullover design.

Fabien M · · Cannes · Joined Dec 2019 · Points: 5

FWIW I just order myself the Patagonia Storm10 which is matching all my criterias but the weight.
It's too bad because with only the chest pocket I think it would have been a better jacket.

Will get back with a review on this thread in a few months when I used it enough.

Mitch L · · Seattle, WA · Joined Feb 2020 · Points: 0
Nkane 1 wrote:

OR Helium II. I've been pretty happy with it.

I love how light it is, but not hardshell worthy imo. Mine wets out after arounx 10m in sustained precip (plenty of opportunity to test that in Seattle). I also don't think it would have much  tear resistance around rock. But I do like it as a light 'might rain for a little bit' layer

Jake S · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2019 · Points: 2

Rab phantom 

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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