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6mm micro pulley

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Webfoot · · Oregon · Joined Jul 2018 · Points: 0

At only 17 grams with a 2 kN WLL the DMM Helix Polo micro pulley is something I would like to have for a 7:1 double mariner haul kit but they appear to be vaporware.  Is there anything similar on the market?

Jim Titt · · Germany · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 490

I use the Ronstan orbit on my rescue hauler, weighs 9g, MWL 250kg BL 550 kg and better bearings.

Webfoot · · Oregon · Joined Jul 2018 · Points: 0
Jim Titt wrote:

I use the Ronstan orbit on my rescue hauler, weighs 9g, MWL 250kg BL 550 kg and better bearings.

I bought one.  How do you attach yours?  It comes with 1.7mm spectra-core lashing line but it also says up to 4mm will fit.  Could a single 4mm loop be used as both lashing and Prusik?

Jim Titt · · Germany · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 490

I've the supplied Dyneema on one and some 4mm polyester high-strength cord on the other because I needed a larger loop/becket as I'm using three together.

Brocky · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 0

Pass the cord through the pulley and tie a sliding grapevine bend, a double fishermen’s that captures both sides of the loop. 

Webfoot · · Oregon · Joined Jul 2018 · Points: 0

I knew it would be small but in hand the Ronstan Orbit Series 20 pulley is tiny!  Can it really handle a working load of 2 kN while keeping an efficiency advantage over a carabiner or ring?

Jim Titt · · Germany · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 490

Clever guys at Ronstan, probably the world leaders in stuff for small boats. Rather than using a standard ball bearing or a bronze bush there's a double row acetal ball bearing and when the load gets high there's an acetal bush running on the stainless centre pin. Exactly when the bush takes over I don't know, whichever it's going to be far better than over a biner. I could measure it if I can summon up the energy to bring some heavy weights in the workshop!

Jim Titt · · Germany · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 490

I lifted a 88kg weight, block at the top and pulling downwards so 1:1. 4mm cord. Load pulling (it's really a force but that's confusing). Efficiency corrected for the weight of the load cell in %

Ronstan 98kg 85%

12mm karabiner (new) 120kg 61%

Petzl block 96kg 86%

Edelrid block 100kg 83%

Roll'nLock 98kg 85%

The Roll'nLock was a problem, the cord preferred to move to the side and gave erratic readings as well as one time chopping the cord.

Webfoot · · Oregon · Joined Jul 2018 · Points: 0

I am grateful.  Thank you!

Is this a good cord for these blocks?  https://www.fisheriessupply.com/fse-robline-dinghy-control/dc-4y

Jim Titt · · Germany · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 490

Better than I'm using!

Brocky · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 0

Recently was going to place an order with them and got a shipping charge for $125 for $50 of line, free shipping over $99 though.  That is some nice cord, knots easily.

Webfoot · · Oregon · Joined Jul 2018 · Points: 0

Thanks Brocky, I got the idea from one of your posts. I ordered from westcoastsailing.net (corrected) as they had other lines by the foot I wanted. I also ordered an Orbit Series 30 block so I can rig the systems shown below, in addition to the 3:1, 5:1, and 7:1 shown in Eight Simple Systems using a single cord block that I had originally planned.

Webfoot · · Oregon · Joined Jul 2018 · Points: 0

The Orbit 20 block lashed with four feet of 4mm Marlow Excel Racing GP78 for use as a Prusik, with a blended Technora sheath for heat resistance. 22 grams. Coils to the size of my thumb.

Nathan Doyle · · Gold Country, CA · Joined Feb 2016 · Points: 57
Webfoot wrote:

The Orbit 20 block lashed with four feet of 4mm Marlow Excel Racing GP78 for use as a Prusik, with a blended Technora sheath for heat resistance. 22 grams. Coils to the size of my thumb.

Is this the same one?

https://www.amazon.com/Ronstan-Ball-Bearing-Orbit-Block/dp/B0063K6PFA

Webfoot · · Oregon · Joined Jul 2018 · Points: 0

Yes.

Brocky · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 0

An option that is passive, but a little less efficient.  An end to end splice for a loop, which is seized on the low friction ring.
Jim Titt · · Germany · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 490

A "little less"?

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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