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Swivel vs rotor?

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noel garcia · · Madrid, ES · Joined Mar 2022 · Points: 119

Hi!

I apologize if this is a silly question... but I've come across this "swivel+carabiner" called rotor and I was thinking if anyone has tried using this for hauling in a bigwall (instead of the usual petzl swivel or similar).

An immediate advantage is that this costs ~13€ [in Spain, where I live] while the petzl swivel alone costs ~30€...

Thanks for any information you guys can provide!
Cherokee Nunes · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2015 · Points: 0

It has a maximum load of 780g.

noel garcia · · Madrid, ES · Joined Mar 2022 · Points: 119

780kg are about 7.6kN it's not the usual 24...but more than enough for a static load. A 100kg hauling bag would be ~1kN...even bouncing or whatever it's hard to go over 2kN...

Do you think it's a hard no-go??

Andrew R · · Marion, IA · Joined Aug 2019 · Points: 0

The Petzl has a max load of 5 KN from the tech data and the Grivel has a max load if 7.6 KN from the website.  Grivel lists the max load and Petzl lists the breaking strength on the web site. 

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236
Andrew R wrote:

The Petzl has a max load of 5 KN from the tech data and the Grivel has a max load if 7.6 KN from the website.  Grivel lists the max load and Petzl lists the breaking strength on the web site. 

Mark Pilate · · MN · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 25

I wouldn’t think twice for hauling.  Seems fit for intended use.

 Let the guys below you worry about the specs 

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236

Can't believe no one has mentioned this, the Grivel won't have bearings, so it won't be able to twist effectively under load like the petzl swivel, it also just looks kinda like a bould has been used for the Grivel which if weighted and rotated could break the (what I imagine is) threadlock. 

Danny Radomski · · St. Louis · Joined Oct 2019 · Points: 5

I'm pretty certain the Grivel does have bearings. It feels like a ball bearing to me

Rprops · · Nevada · Joined Nov 2015 · Points: 2,422

This is the tiny carabiner for attaching tethers to ice tools, right?

J C · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2015 · Points: 477

WLL /= MBS

Marc-Olivier Chabot · · Gatineau, QC · Joined Sep 2016 · Points: 440
Rprops wrote:

This is the tiny carabiner for attaching tethers to ice tools, right?

Yes, it's the same biner as the one used on the Grivel tethers. This biner is strong enough for an haul bag and it's affordable but there is a better swivel on the market. 

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