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Webbing belt/harness help!
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Hey guys. I’m looking for a simple 1.75-2 inch webbing belt with an old school rock climbing harness buckle that can be doubled back and support body weight. I have been searching the internet forever and can’t find what I’m looking for. I just want something simple and cheap that can support high forces that I don’t have to sew. Anyone have any ideas? I’ve looked at riggers belts, tactical belts, and it’s all garbage that can’t be doubled back or has a crappy buckle or extra junk. Thanks!
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I'd call Yates, or Fish |
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Arcteryx makes the Riggers belt thing, that I understand to basically be a harness waist loop, May be a good jumping off point for some more vague googling |
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Nobody makes anything like that anymore that isn't quick adjust, why do you need it to double back? |
Bill W wrote: I just want it to not slip and be cheap. What I’m looking for should cost like 5-10 dollars max and it just doesn’t seem to exist. |
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Typically that would require sewing in at least 1 spot. |
 A salvaged 1" double back buckle of a misty mountain Cadillac. Requires thinner inner webbing and fatter outer webbing. Would require sewing the thinner webbing to the thicker webbing in 1 spot (would want that done by a pro like Russ) If you could find two 2" buckles that would accept 3 passes of tubular webbing on both sides you could make it work with all the same thickness of webbing and no sewing, but two buckles, 1 would just be to eliminate the sewn part and the other you would use to enter/exit/adjust it. Or maybe a single buckle that would accept 5 passes on 1 side and 3 on the other side... that would allow you to use a single piece of tubular with no sewing, but you would be double backing two strands of webbing. Either way Ideally you have several buckles and webbing available to play around and make something that will work. Proper slot size is important. |
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Buy an Alpine Bod harness from Black Diamond and cut the leg loops off it. |
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I've got a one size fits all harness made totally from wide webbing. No elastics, no padding. I'll have to dig it out to see how easy it would be to remove the leg loop parts. Interested? I think it's the Blue Water Voyager. |
LL Biner wrote: The reason I mentioned Yates is that I once bought exactly what you're describing at their store in Redding, CA. It was a bartacked swami belt/ chalk bag belt. You could also just buy 20' of webbing and do an old school swami belt. |
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If you're a size small I have an old style BD Alpine Bod harness that you could cut the leg loops off of. |
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These are all interesting ideas. I’m just wanting it for a homemade wing foiling harness. Right now I’m using a webbing strap with plastic connection buckles and it works great but I’m just worried that it’s going to break the connector buckles during a big gust. I really just want a single piece of 2” webbing with a sewed on or otherwise attached old school metal climbing buckle since I already have a life jacket for padding. I can’t believe it’s so hard to find! Anything that costs more than 20-30 bucks is kind of pointless cause I could just pay someone to sew at that point.  |
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 Brand new, made in Sept 2021. Come with stuff sack $25 CAD. MP if you want it. |
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pulley hitch with mule knot. just a couple feet of webbing, no sewing, no buckle, no cluster. -Haireball |
Rob Gordon wrote: I have some buckles made for parachute harness adjustment. Some are doubled back. some sliders. 1" and 1.75". Don't use them as the only thing keeping you attached to safety (not for tethers, rappel belts). The 1" double back buckles fit 1" tube and worked well for dog rescue harnesse adjusters and are rated to 4000 lbs (not the slip strength tho, that is less). You would need to sew it to one side of the webbing. I'd sell them for $3 each plus postage.Contact me if you might want one, The steel d ring is rated at 5000. I even have some short pieces of 1.75" olive web (2 or 3 feet long) I could include for just the shipping.  |
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https://www.skotswallgear.com/shop/u99c3cq4qdfmkz9qo5zp28m3pw1m6g Skots Wall Gear makes the Bivy Belt which looks like exactly what you're looking for.  |
Rob Gordon wrote: No profit in a $5-10 harness that would have to meet certain specs. The Petzl gym harnesses don't slip and are pretty cheap. You're not going to use the BD mine belt for a belay or something safety related are you? |
Bill W wrote: No, I’m not an idiot. Haha. A failure would be annoying but not a problem. The solution I’m using right now is held by a plastic buckle. This should be a huge step up in strength. I imagine the plastic harness line hook will fail long before the belt. But assuming it’s full strength webbing and a legit buckle, I think the belt would probably be pretty bomber. Hard to know without a better understanding of the materials involved. |
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Another option that is perhaps a bit burlier than the BD one you found. I have one that has lasted for years. https://www.patagonia.com/product/tech-web-belt/59194.html?dwvar_59194_color=BLK |
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I've used NRS kayak straps (as daisy chains, not harness belts, but same idea). They're not officially rated for life support, but the 1.5" version has a MBS of 2000lb, so probably super good enough. https://www.nrs.com/nrs-15-heavy-duty-straps/pywr They work quite well as homemade/ghetto daisy chains. Would probably be OK as a webbing belt for a harness, although the high profile buckle may be uncomfortable. |
