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I need help with a BC setup
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If there are other sites that can help me with gear question please let me know: I already have the Atomic backland 100 with the ATK raider 12, 172 cm as my setup which I'm using most of the winter when there's decent freshies around. I'm looking for a spring setup for longer traverses (longer days), some peak bagging and yeah some couloir hunting. I'm 177 cm and 81 kg with advance ski skills and years of backcountry experience Traverses such as https://adventuresallyear.com/2021/01/16/garibaldi-neve-traverse/ https://skithefifty.com/spearhead-traverse peak bagging: skimo.co/eldorado-peak-glacier So what should I be looking for in skis and bindings? skinnier skis? Rocker in front? bigger shovel in front get over the crud better? rocker taile or flat tail for better edging while I'm skinning? Any particular models? Thanks |
RWPT wrote: Flat tail. Skinny. If you want a blend of ski-ability and lightness for the up, there is no question. The Atomic Backland UL 85 would be the ski. It is around 1000gm, but sure skis well for its weight. Very good edge hold. I'd probably go with something in the 160s. Binding? Dynafit TLT Superlite 175 OR Trab titan Gara Vario. Pomoca Free Pro 2.0 (accept that these are not super durable). What boots do you have? |
Ryan K wrote: Thanks a lot for this. I ended up with hagan ultra 87 in 170 length What do u think? I also have the Atk raider 12 bindings. Likely burlier than what I need but I got a deal. I have Scott cosmos III for boots. Good for wider feet as it has 100 mm last. Any ideas for lighter boot? Haven’t researched on that yet. How does a flat tail help? |
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Cripplecreekbc.com is a great resource. |
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I’ve used the Backland UL 78 with Dynafit Superlites and the Alien RS for what you’re describing for awhile. They ski really well for the size and I end up using them on powder days when I’m short on time and need to move fast. I started using a proper race setup (backland 65 s PDG binding / Alien 1.0) for more big traverses and have been liking it. It feels a little weird in exposed steep terrain on such a small heel piece, but they ski surprisingly well. The stiffer skis with flat tails just let you use a smaller ski since the effective edge runs the entire length. Anything lightweight is going to have a hard time in crud, but I think there’s something to the spoon shape that Atomic and other brands are putting on the tip they seem to be a little more predictable in bad snow that other comparable skis.  |
RWPT wrote: I don't know much about those Hagans, but they look pretty awesome. Raider 12s are nice bindings. You can always see how you feel with them, but it is definitely beefy/relatively heavy for that ski. I think sub-200gm is what I'd look for but certainly not a requirement. Boots: Alien RS is my personal favorite. No longer made, now lives on (sort of) as the F1 LT.. The Dalbello quantum has its fans as well. Fisher travers CS is also pretty great. They are simple in function. Relatively light (~1kg), and ski awesome. I wish they fit my foot (too wide). Flat tails are desirable for two main reasons: 1. They can be stabbed into the snow more easily to serve as anchors (not likely a huge deal for you, more for guiding/rescue applications). 2. Because a turned up tail actually is a little more likely get hung up on snow during kick turns/hop turns, and could flip you over onto your back.. Also, a rear raised tail really just extra weight you're lugging around for no reason. I've also been using a Skimo race setup for big traverses. Super versatile, and really fantastic edge hold in steep firm conditions. Definitely take some getting used to however.. |
Will Shaw wrote: Thanks for reply |
Ryan K wrote: I ended purchasing pomoca free pro but rebranded as DPS skins. The difference the DPS has meta clips |
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I can vouch for the the Fischer Travers CS as a warm comfortable, lightweight, great climbing boot. Climbs ice great. I use em for everything. Even drive in them they’re that comfortable and flexible. But I’m curious what some of the cognoscenti think about Fishscale skis. Being from MN, I have been using some Fischer S-bound (112 shovel, 70 waist) and this winter the Voile Objective BC (117, 84) with ATK R10’s and think I’ve found Nirvana. I mainly use these as an access vehicle to and from climbs in either MN or RMNP, Tetons, etc. I can ski up an almost 30 degree slope before needing skins (depending on snow conditions) My question is when or why will I ever need or want anything else? What (if anything) am I missing or limiting my ski enjoyment ? I always wondered by there aren’t more patterned ski options that minimize need for skins. My glide is not noticeably affected at all. The speed and enjoyment of needing only a fraction of skin use for long approaches and traverses makes me wonder why anyone DOESN’T use fishscales…but they are a minority. I have to be missing something For background, I weekly ski everything from XC skate, classic, XC BC, Tele, Full alpine (GS and SL rigs) and AT (3- setups…have non-scaled Fischer as well as the S-bound and Voile). The Voile Objective BC is by far the best thing I’ve ever skied for overall, “one ski to rule them all”, satisfaction. But being a flatlander, I question whether my exuberance is misplaced.. |
