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Did Arcteryx stop making the AR395a?
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It's out of stock practically everywhere in every size, both men's and women's. Just wondering if I missed something on this |
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One of their few products still made in Canada. Wonder if they're transitioning to a Chinese model like the Dually>Nuclei SV in their continual race to the bottom. Could just be COVID supply chain stuff though. Even if it's made in Canada they still need the bits and pieces to make it from. Seems all outdoor gear availability is grinding to a halt. I wouldn't bother asking Arc'teryx CS, they are >90% clueless unless you "know somebody." |
jdejace wrote: I am using the Nuclei SV this season for ice climbing and i hate to say it but the Jacket is very well thought out and is very warm. I never touched or used the Dually so can't speak to the differences or level of quality. I don't know where you would find a US made belay jacket outside of Feathered Friends and if you wanted synthetic I don't know if there is an option outside of cottage gear makers? The Nuclei SV was already at the limit of my price point, but after using a Pata Hyperpuff and DAS Light in seasons past, I am a believer in a big, well designed belay jacket. And yeah, if there was a US or Canadian made option that was close enough to the market price for the Nuclei SV, I would have gone for it... Also unfortunate that the Arc gear that I wear climbing seems to fit me the best and have the best design elements is all manufactured in China. Patagonia also manufactures oversees but does seem to have a bit more investment in fair trade / traceability / and recyclability. Maybe I am wrong on that too. |
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You are correct: FF for down, cottage is the only option for synthetic that I know of currently. The Dually was perfect and made in Vancouver but it wasn't within most people's budgets. It's not a quality issue with Chinese stuff, they can make everything from jackets to climbing gear to bicycle frames as well as or better than anyone in the EU/North America at this point. And we'd all be in trouble without their electronics that most of us depend on. The Nuclei SV is probably the best belay jacket on the market right now. It's the one I would buy if I couldn't wait for a cottage maker to make me one, and most of those shops are busy making down quilts for backpackers which is easy money by comparison. I just avoid Chinese manufacture in general when there is a viable alternative given the child/forced labor issues. Currently if you want a belay jacket those alternatives are sparse. Patagonia does do a better job projecting that they care about people and the planet. Don't know how sincere it is, but I prefer to give them money than Arc when the product is comparable. I suspect the reason they moved out of China and into Vietnam etc.. is because of cheaper labor, not so much because the CCP and Uyghur camps nauseate them. Arc is probably more likely to stick around because they are owned by a Chinese company, but a lot of manufacturers are moving out of China with increasing labor costs. One thing that is nice about both of them is the websites clearly state where each product is made, for those who care. I wish all manufacturers made it that easy. |
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To try and keep this on topic - A lot of other styles are sold out across sizes so I so think it's more a supply issue. I doubt they'd discontinue their signature harness and my guess is they're just tweaking the leg loop sizes again On the Nuclei SV -another worthy topic. I have one and it's outstanding in warmth and packability. I think they made a big mistake and lowballed the price point. It appears to be made in coastal China via a Hong Kong manufacturer so hopefully less ethical issues than somewhere more interior. A nice comparison to the Dually here: https://www.thealpinestart.com/2021/11/18/arcteryx-nuclei-sv-review-vs-dually/ |
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I "know somebody" at Arc'teryx. I can find out in a week or two. |
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I bought one maybe a couple months ago. Had to check every day for months until it came into stock. Their production is just way behind right now |
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Still in-stock on their (Canadian) website and got one earlier this year. |
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I’m concerned for no reason and should maybe stock up. |
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Can you give me a short review of this product? Looks to me like a one-harness that can handle more or less everything from the gym to ice climbing. The only downside for me is the price. |
Chase G wrote: I spoke with the head of the department at Arc'teryx that makes climbing harnesses. The AR395a is still being made and will still be made for at least 2-3 more years. |
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Does anyone know if they will make the cquence not suck? I mean I am a slim thicc boy and the leg loops are still giant on them. |
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C-Quence line is on its way out. The replacement is being tested... If you climb at certain Vancouver area gyms at certain times you can see prototypes of future Arc'teryx harnesses being tested out... |
Matěj Eberle wrote: I was able to demo one at the Bishop Craggin Classic. It was pretty amazingly comfortable and I'd forget it was on. I fell a number of times that day and it didn't bite or bunch anywhere. For the bad, I think I've heard some people complain about the angled plastic covers causing gear to slip down and congregate in the center but I wasn't able to experience it myself. It being a festival there wasn't any chance to lead until after I'd returned the harness. |
Leif Johnson wrote: Never been much of an issue on either one I’ve owned. If I were to have one complaint, it would be that the rear ice clipper spot on the left side is too far back. The first version had more issues, the haul loop was too small to be useful and the little hook to attach the leg loops on the back of the harness was also small and annoying, but on the second version both were addressed. |
Ted Raven wrote: The gear loops can be an issue on really steep climbs but otherwise it's an awesome harness. |
Khoi wrote: Do you have any idea when new harness will be released? |
Matěj Eberle wrote: It looks like the new Konseal harness should launch as part of the SS22 catalog. Based on the supply chain the SS22 catalog is slowly being released in stages unlike previous launches, so it could be any day or months away. |
Matěj Eberle wrote: The Konseal harness should be out later this year. The replacement for the C-Quence is still being tested. I have no idea when it will actually hit the market. |
Khoi wrote: Why would they do that? Cquence line is less than 2 years old. Doesn't make sense. |
