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What is this? A carabiner with a rope cutter?

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Marvin Binder · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2021 · Points: 0

My mountaineering experience is limited to hiking to the top, no ropes necessary. I ran across this unusual item and wondered if it is a carabiner of some kind with a cutter, or simply industrial.

Can anyone identify this?  It is unmarked. Thanks.

Marv

Chase G · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Jun 2017 · Points: 169

Certainly would be the quickest way to lower off a sport climb

Kevin Mokracek · · Burbank · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 363

And people think open cold shuts are dangerous? 

Erik J · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2019 · Points: 0

Climbers back in the 80's would use these to prevent hangdogging. Non-locking versions were sold but weren't nearly as successful due to safety concerns

Gunkiemike · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 3,687

That was an early version of the Beal Escaper. You rig it so the weighted rap line is on the non-sharp end. Then when you're done, you give the rope a strong upwards flip, and it cuts itself free of the anchor. Field testing revealed that the rap rope gets a bit shorter on each rappel, so the design was shelved in favor of the device that's being sold nowadays.

Jon Hartmann · · Ojai, CA · Joined Feb 2009 · Points: 1,787

Could be an electrical wire stripper to remove the plastic sheath from the copper or aluminum core.

Ackley The Improved · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2020 · Points: 0

An early “rope frayer “ pre- RopeX.

phylp phylp · · Upland · Joined May 2015 · Points: 1,137

Just looking at that thing gives me the chills.

Teton Climber · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2011 · Points: 1
Marvin Binder wrote:

 I ran across this unusual item 

Exactly where did you run across this item?

Marvin Binder · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2021 · Points: 0
Teton Climber wrote:

Exactly where did you run across this item?

It's an item on ebay

Marv

Pete S · · Spokane, WA · Joined Jul 2020 · Points: 223

That’s one hell of a nut cracker! 

Short Fall Sean · · Bishop, CA · Joined Sep 2012 · Points: 7

Marvin, since you're new here and your climbing experience is limited, I'll translate everyone's comments for you:

"I have no idea what that is, but it sure would be a fucked up piece of climbing equipment!"

Tim Stich · · Colorado Springs, Colorado · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 1,516

I'm pretty curious as to what this really is. So it looks like something to do cutting that you can easily clip onto a rope, perhaps. Maybe some way to cut your dad loose if you and your brother are about to fall on a route with one cam in? 

Peter Carlson · · St Louis · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 5
Gunkiemike wrote:

That was an early version of the Beal Escaper. You rig it so the weighted rap line is on the non-sharp end. Then when you're done, you give the rope a strong upwards flip, and it cuts itself free of the anchor. Field testing revealed that the rap rope gets a bit shorter on each rappel, so the design was shelved in favor of the device that's being sold nowadays.

Wildly dangerous to speculate like this. It's clearly a rope shaver. Turns your fuzzy 10.2 into a sleek, modern 9.6. Just remember to use rope soap and shave with the grain to avoid bumps.

Allen Sanderson · · On the road to perdition · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 1,100

Medieval castration device ...

Marvin Binder · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2021 · Points: 0
Short Fall Sean wrote:

Marvin, since you're new here and your climbing experience is limited, I'll translate everyone's comments for you:

"I have no idea what that is, but it sure would be a fucked up piece of climbing equipment!"

Yes, it took a couple of posts for me to realize that.  I thought it might be a canopy line cutter to use if the jumper is caught hanging around. However, there are plenty of tools for that purpose.  Thanks for all the responses though. I must admit, I loved all the "climbing jargon".  

Marv

Bill Lawry · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 1,812

Someone’s attempt at a wood spoke carver / bark stripper?  

wivanoff · · Northeast, USA · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 719
Marvin Binder wrote:

My mountaineering experience is limited to hiking to the top, no ropes necessary. I ran across this unusual item and wondered if it is a carabiner of some kind with a cutter, or simply industrial.

Can anyone identify this?  It is unmarked. Thanks.

Marv

Why not ask here? reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/

Ryan Bowen · · Redmond OR · Joined Nov 2021 · Points: 5

Clearly none of you are circumcised 

Teton Climber · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2011 · Points: 1
Tim Stich wrote:

I'm pretty curious as to what this really is.

Google can't answer everything but it was on ebay as a WWII-era paratroopers/mountaineering tool if you do a reverse image search. The OP intentionally left that out his post. Unknown if it is actually a paratroopers tool. It doesn't show up as a standard part of a paratroopers kit if you look at WWII images.

Marty C · · Herndon, VA · Joined Aug 2008 · Points: 70
Teton Climber wrote:

Google can't answer everything but it was on ebay as a WWII-era paratroopers/mountaineering tool if you do a reverse image search. The OP intentionally left that out his post. Unknown if it is actually a paratroopers tool. It doesn't show up as a standard part of a paratroopers kit if you look at WWII images.

Interesting. If this is the case, then perhaps it was a cutting tool for paratroopers to cut their lines in the event they got caught up in trees or powerlines.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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