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Tying into the belay loop?

Jim Titt · · Germany · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 490

Mammut are Swiss.

Noel Z · · UK · Joined Oct 2020 · Points: 15
Jim Titt wrote:

Mammut are Swiss.

Mammut means mammoth in German. The factory is in the German speaking part of Switzerland and is just 20km from the its relative giant neighbour Germany. German climbing tradition, not to mention, the huge customer base in Germany, absolutely play a part in what Mammut chooses to publish.
Whether it's attaching there or not is problem, will show itself over time. Where I live, an adjustable PAS is a must have item. Some new climbers buy one before their first set if quickdraws or first rope. Most instructions for a PAS state to attach to the belay loop.

Jim Titt · · Germany · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 490

I've lived and climbed in Germany for over 30 years and been in the equipment industry for 20. Tying into the belay loop is perfectly acceptable despite your long-winded and tortous attempt to prove otherwise.

Joe Say'n · · Gießen, .de · Joined Aug 2016 · Points: 0
Noel Z wrote:

Mammut means mammoth in German. The factory is in the German speaking part of Switzerland and is just 20km from the its relative giant neighbour Germany. German climbing tradition, not to mention, the huge customer base in Germany, absolutely play a part in what Mammut chooses to publish.

And I'm correct in assuming you have been to neither of the two countries, right?

David K · · The Road, Sometimes Chattan… · Joined Jan 2017 · Points: 423
Noel Z wrote:

Mammut means mammoth in German. The factory is in the German speaking part of Switzerland and is just 20km from the its relative giant neighbour Germany. German climbing tradition, not to mention, the huge customer base in Germany, absolutely play a part in what Mammut chooses to publish.

Why don't you explain more about Germany to Jim Titt, a German-speaking German living in Germany? After all, the majority of manufacturers don't say that Switzerland is NOT basically Germany.

Whether it's attaching there or not is problem, will show itself over time. Where I live, an adjustable PAS is a must have item. Some new climbers buy one before their first set if quickdraws or first rope. Most instructions for a PAS state to attach to the belay loop.

I have a Petzl Connect Adjust PAS. The directions say to girth hitch it to your belay loop. I girth hitch it to my hard points, and have done so for years. Does this mean I'm already dead???

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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