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Long's Peak Reservation issues

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David White · · Denver, CO · Joined Aug 2020 · Points: 0

Hello I'm having issues making a reservation for Rocky Mountain national Park I'm trying to hike longs Peak and make it an overnight trip.  Has anyone else had issues actually trying to make the reservation using your smartphone maybe I just need to use a regular computer but I just can't seem to make the reservation.  I am also possibly looking for someone who would want to climb the diamond wall with me. Last question is I'm considering bringing my hammock instead of a tent, I was wondering if anybody knew if it was going to be an issue finding places to hang hammock.  Any help is much appreciated. I am trying for weekend around the 1st if anyone wants to come, I am pretty flexible,mk thank you...

 David

Hal Tucker · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2018 · Points: 0

If you want to go overnight you'll need a bivy permit which is available at the Visitor's Center. Otherwise, start early and you don't need a reservation.

Jonathan S · · Golden, CO · Joined Sep 2009 · Points: 261

They don't give out bivy permits for hikes, only technical climbs. The hiker backcountry campgrounds (Goblin's Forrest and Boulder Field) have reservations fill up months in advance. I don't know about off season, which might start soon.

Buck Rio · · MN · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 16
David White wrote:

Hello I'm having issues making a reservation for Rocky Mountain national Park I'm trying to hike longs Peak and make it an overnight trip.  Has anyone else had issues actually trying to make the reservation using your smartphone maybe I just need to use a regular computer but I just can't seem to make the reservation.  I am also possibly looking for someone who would want to climb the diamond wall with me. Last question is I'm considering bringing my hammock instead of a tent, I was wondering if anybody knew if it was going to be an issue finding places to hang hammock.  Any help is much appreciated. I am trying for weekend around the 1st if anyone wants to come, I am pretty flexible,mk thank you...

 David

Hi David, if you can't navigate the permit process, Longs is very do-able in a day. 

Last time I did it we started at about 2:30 AM and got back to the car at about 4:30 PM. We took our time, but didn't dawdle either. I think it is about 18 miles round trip, with a pretty significant elevation gain. Check the weather and make sure you are off the summit by afternoon. By far the hardest 14er I have done as far as effort goes. 

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
David White wrote:

Hello I'm having issues making a reservation for Rocky Mountain national Park I'm trying to hike longs Peak and make it an overnight trip.  Has anyone else had issues actually trying to make the reservation using your smartphone maybe I just need to use a regular computer but I just can't seem to make the reservation.  I am also possibly looking for someone who would want to climb the diamond wall with me. Last question is I'm considering bringing my hammock instead of a tent, I was wondering if anybody knew if it was going to be an issue finding places to hang hammock.  Any help is much appreciated. I am trying for weekend around the 1st if anyone wants to come, I am pretty flexible,mk thank you...

 David

If your tick list and profile are accurate and up to date, you’re probably not ready for the Diamond. 

Jon Cheifitz · · Superior/Lafayette, Co · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 90

David,

A few extra details for you, in the Boulder Field you will not find any place for a hammock, it really is just as it sounds, a field of boulders above treeline.

Some folks find it a bit confusing between a Wilderness camp site versus a Bivy site and the details for both although similar are not the same in RMNP.

Here are the links to get you started for everything you might need to read or learn about the differences. 

https://www.nps.gov/romo/planyourvisit/wilderness-camping.htm

https://www.nps.gov/romo/planyourvisit/bivy_sites.htm

Best

David White · · Denver, CO · Joined Aug 2020 · Points: 0
Marc801 C wrote:

If your tick list and profile are accurate and up to date, you’re probably not ready for the Diamond. 

I'm like 39 and you can't look at a site that I have been on 6 months to assess my skills. Maybe I am not ready to do a multipitch like this but my intention is only to do maybe the first pitch and boulder around to scout it.  

Hson P · · Berkeley, CA · Joined Nov 2017 · Points: 54
David White wrote:

I'm like 39 and you can't look at a site that I have been on 6 months to assess my skills. Maybe I am not ready to do a multipitch like this but my intention is only to do maybe the first pitch and boulder around to scout it.  

Oh god. The first pitch of what, the north chimney? This is a bad idea.

climber pat · · Las Cruces NM · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 301
David White wrote:

 Maybe I am not ready to do a multipitch like this but my intention is only to do maybe the first pitch and boulder around to scout it.  

Do this as a day trip.

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
David White wrote:

I'm like 39 and you can't look at a site that I have been on 6 months to assess my skills. Maybe I am not ready to do a multipitch like this but my intention is only to do maybe the first pitch and boulder around to scout it.  

Wow. A whole 39 years. Quiet down, youngster. You're aware that the easiest route on the Diamond, at 10a, starts 600' up, off of Broadway Ledge, yes?

And I said IF your list is up to date, but from your replies, yeah, it is pretty easy to assess that you're gonna die.

You did read the replies to your other thread, right? https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/121331326/longs-peak-summit-and-diamond-wall-1016#ForumMessage-121345880

Parachute Adams · · At the end of the line · Joined Mar 2019 · Points: 0

I'll suggest this. If looking for a partner update your profile to reflect your lifelong experience. Admitting to doing 2 or 3 hits of LSD during your freeway solo is at least honest but not confidence inspiring. If you can't remember how many hits you did why should someone believe you can remember they are on belay? Bad optics to many, especially for an undertaking like you're considering. Be accurate with your statements. You've been on the site over a year, not 6 months as you stated. You're not "like 39". You either are or you're not.

Research your agenda and have a solid plan in place. Considering a hammock up there reflects a lack of being prepared. Not to mention a complete lack of knowledge of the routes. Or how to access permits. None of that inspires confidence in a potential partner.

TLDR: I'm out.

James W · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2021 · Points: 0

There is a minimum ability required to get yourself in trouble on the Diamond.  I don’t see a problem here.  However, it seems every Oct someone freezes to death on the Keyhole - maybe dress warm for that and leave a breadcrumb trail back to your car - no cotton hoodies.  Check out 14ers.com.

David White · · Denver, CO · Joined Aug 2020 · Points: 0
Aaron Kolb wrote:

Make sure to take a Go Pro and film the disaster for posterity

This is not worth an explanation,, some people here are really fucking ignorant. I probably had more experience than you before you were born, fucking stupid, if you cannot take time to read what I was asking I don't care to climb with you anyways.  Jees some of y'all are really sensitive huh? If I did not think I could do it I probably would not be asking for someone to climb with me. 

David White · · Denver, CO · Joined Aug 2020 · Points: 0
James W wrote:

There is a minimum ability required to get yourself in trouble on the Diamond.  I don’t see a problem here.  However, it seems every Oct someone freezes to death on the Keyhole - maybe dress warm for that and leave a breadcrumb trail back to your car - no cotton hoodies.  Check out 14ers.com.

Please stop....

David White · · Denver, CO · Joined Aug 2020 · Points: 0
Parachute Adams wrote:

I'll suggest this. If looking for a partner update your profile to reflect your lifelong experience. Admitting to doing 2 or 3 hits of LSD during your freeway solo is at least honest but not confidence inspiring. If you can't remember how many hits you did why should someone believe you can remember they are on belay? Bad optics to many, especially for an undertaking like you're considering. Be accurate with your statements. You've been on the site over a year, not 6 months as you stated. You're not "like 39". You either are or you're not.

Research your agenda and have a solid plan in place. Considering a hammock up there reflects a lack of being prepared. Not to mention a complete lack of knowledge of the routes. Or how to access permits. None of that inspires confidence in a potential partner.

TLDR: I'm out.

Oh jees like 2-3 cuz I estimated how much to cut off the sheet, and I probably if anything am a good belay, I have been climbing mostly in a gym since like 1997, I have spent probably a good couple years in the wilderness camping hiking and climbing (accumulated ya know) I made Eagle Scout in 2001, I was a lifeguard for five years, I'm like 39, my bday is in two weeks, I was really wondering where the trees end, obviously before the boulder field. I know how to access permits, I asked if anyone had trouble doing it on a phone cuz I am, I have all the info I could possibly have on the routes, like you guys are really jumping to conclusions and busting my balls and I am surprised. Above all, if I feel uncomfortable I will not attempt it. I free solo and boulder almost every chance I get, I'm better than you think and I probably tie knots better. Anyways, stop hating, like wtf you guys

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
David White wrote:

Oh jees like 2-3 cuz I estimated how much to cut off the sheet, and I probably if anything am a good belay, I have been climbing mostly in a gym since like 1997, I have spent probably a good couple years in the wilderness camping hiking and climbing (accumulated ya know) I made Eagle Scout in 2001, I was a lifeguard for five years, I'm like 39, my bday is in two weeks, I was really wondering where the trees end, obviously before the boulder field. I know how to access permits, I asked if anyone had trouble doing it on a phone cuz I am, I have all the info I could possibly have on the routes, like you guys are really jumping to conclusions and busting my balls and I am surprised. Above all, if I feel uncomfortable I will not attempt it. I free solo and boulder almost every chance I get, I'm better than you think and I probably tie knots better. Anyways, stop hating, like wtf you guys

So we've progressed from ill-informed statements to full-on defensive mode.

Long Ranger · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2014 · Points: 669

David, in a lot of instances in the Park, a hammock is a much better suggestion than a tent, as the ground in campsites in the Park usually get pretty trashed, and when they get wet, the ground gets muddy. If you camp in the Goblin's Forest, you'll have a few options for hanging a hammock. You won't have many (any?) options in Jim's Grove, and no options in the Boulderfield, or for any of the bivy locations used for technical climbing. Treeline is at around 12,000' in the Park - using a NFS map will show enough tree cover in Green. 

As of right now, there's a few spots at Golblin's Forest, 

https://www.nps.gov/romo/planyourvisit/upload/campsite_availability_list0922-1.pdf

This isn't working? 

https://www.pay.gov/public/form/start/881831411

slim · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2004 · Points: 1,103

not sure if this is elanor or tradiban, but they are fishing in a hatchery with dynamite...

Parachute Adams · · At the end of the line · Joined Mar 2019 · Points: 0

Probably a good belayer is not a good answer. To any of this. I'm just putting out there what I would expect out of a partner.  Once again your ticklist does not reflect what you will find up there. 5.5 doesn't reflect experience in the alpine. Best of luck to you.

This sounds more like a weak troll with every word you type.

Stiles · · the Mountains · Joined May 2003 · Points: 845

l took a $12 campers hammock from walmart on the lower east face of that diamond wall.  W/ an elephants foot bag.  it sucked.  a whole lot.  

Eagle Scout Class of '01.  Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Curteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, Reverent.  

David Pneuman · · All Around Colorado · Joined Oct 2006 · Points: 0

I think one can string up a hammock in any one of the places mentioned using only boulders, cliff faces, and / or natural elevation changes. Who says trees are required ?

Is it some obscure RMNP rule ?

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Colorado
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