CAMP M TECH 22L pack

Hello, anyone have any experience with the CAMP M TECH 22L pack? (Tried a MP search with no luck.) The pack has ALL the bells and whistles you would want for a nice small alpine or rock pack, but I worry that at 23oz... that once you add your rope, tools & rack, water, snacks and any layers those whimpy looking chest straps are going to dig into you after only the first half mile. Anyone have any experience on how this mini-pack carries weight? Thank you in advance. 

https://www.camp-usa.com/outdoor/product/packs/m-tech/

 My guess is that it, like a lot of alpine packs, is counting on the wearer having layers on. 

I have the old version M20/Campack 20. Got it on super clearance when they were discontinuing it and much to my surprise I Love it. Holds rope well, seems larger than the size they claim by a bit. Integrated Helmet carrying system is great and makes me wonder why every pack doesn’t have something similar. Holds tools and rope well. Water bottle pockets are nice for expanding capacity on the approach. Only real negative is it’s not great to climb with on route as it is too tall to be comfortable and has the quazy frame so that it can carry skis that makes it stiff. 

i also have the m20 pack like Zachary. I second what he says about it. I think if you prioritize how it carries, get the M20 pack which has a hip belt and internal frame. I’ve been using mine all winter for snow/ice as well as A-framing a splitboard on it and it carries great. My only complaint about the M20 is the mesh back panel can pack with snow during the winter so you have to mindful of where you set it. 

Get the M20. It is one of the most well thought out packs I’ve seen. I think it’s very comfortable when fully loaded. Not clear to me why they even bothered with the M Tech

Evan Gerry wrote:

i also have the m20 pack like Zachary. I second what he says about it. I think if you prioritize how it carries, get the M20 pack which has a hip belt and internal frame. I’ve been using mine all winter for snow/ice as well as A-framing a splitboard on it and it carries great. My only complaint about the M20 is the mesh back panel can pack with snow during the winter so you have to mindful of where you set it. 

I didn’t look into the differences of the m20 vs m tech. Interesting to have no hip belt, I see the new M20 has a removable hip belt which would make more sense as a design than none. As a note, at least on my version the internal frame is easily removable. Not sure how easy it would be to put back in but doesn’t seem like it’d be too difficult. I’d probably/should probably take it out for climbing season and put it back in for ski season. If you’re planning on carrying skis definitely get whichever option has a frame. Makes it much nicer. I didn’t have any issue with the mesh getting snow stuck, but I also usually sit on my pack with mesh facing up