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New BD rope with "1x1" weave...

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slim · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2004 · Points: 1,103

i have a couple older BD ropes with the 1x1 weave and i really like them.  they switched over to a 2x2 weave for a few years, but i didn't like them as much.  their new rope lineup has several ropes that they advertise as being a 1x1 weave, but when i look at the photos they look like a 2x2 weave, but with some weird offset/asymmetry (see link below and look at closeup photo).  am i on drugs here?

https://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en_US/product/9-2-climbing-rope/

however, the honnold looks like a typical 1x1 (see link below)

https://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en_US/product/9-4-dry-climbing-rope-honnold-edition/

Jens 1 · · . · Joined May 2009 · Points: 482

The BD ropes have been subpar for the last few years. 

Frank Stein · · Picayune, MS · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 205

Perhaps the confusion lies in that old BD ropes were relabeled Roca, but the new ones are relabeled Tendon. Perhaps just buy straight from Roca if you like those?  

slim · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2004 · Points: 1,103

In the video kolin even calls it a 1x1, but it doesn't look like one to me.

Jens 1 · · . · Joined May 2009 · Points: 482

Single pic sheaths & double pic both have their advantages & disadvantages. 

Brocky · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 0

The two carrier strands are woven in a one on one braid?

slim · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2004 · Points: 1,103
Brocky wrote:

The two carrier strands are woven in a one on one braid?

yeah, it looks something like that.  not sure what to call it. i don't think i would call it 1x1.

Andrew Krajnik · · Plainfield, IL · Joined Jul 2016 · Points: 1,739
slim wrote:

yeah, it looks something like that.  not sure what to call it. i don't think i would call it 1x1.

If it was cloth, it would be called a twill weave, but I doubt the rope industry uses the same naming conventions.

edit to add: looking at the "2x2", that's just a doubled version of the twill weave, versus a plain weave 2x2.

My favorite ropes are the mammut crag 9.5 (formerly Infinity) and the sterling helix, which both appear to have a "2x2" plain weave.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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