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PMRP top parking lot now paid parking

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Matthew Jaggers · · Red River Gorge · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 695

Heard a rumor, and just curious if anyone knows for sure if this is true. They have been putting in a ton of work, and have every right to do it, just trying to confirm the rumors. Thanks for all the years of free parking!

DrRockso RRG · · Red River Gorge, KY · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 860

The parking at the top of the motherlode hill is now $7. It is owned by a private landowner who decided to build a parking lot there and start charging.  The RRGCC was not involved with this and none of the proceeds are going to support the coalition. 

Matthew Jaggers · · Red River Gorge · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 695

Tis' what i heard. Thanks for confirming. If nothing else, this should help spread out the crowds the coalition has been concerned about.

2 ChainS · · Four Bracelets · Joined Feb 2016 · Points: 0

It was $7 plus tax a week ago......

Matthew Jaggers · · Red River Gorge · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 695
2 ChainS wrote:

It was $7 plus tax a week ago......

As steep as the hill those cars can't go down. Makes sense I guess. Those bulldozers were there for an epic amount of time. Couldnt have been cheap.

Dane B · · Chuff City · Joined Oct 2014 · Points: 5

Wonder how many ill-equipped vehicles will start trying to get down and then back up Lode hill

Alan Rader · · Wherever my Van is. · Joined May 2014 · Points: 320

Sign says $8 for last couple weeks I have been around. 

Oh and firewood for $6

Doug Chism · · Arlington VA · Joined Jul 2017 · Points: 55
Alan Rader wrote:

Sign says $8 for last couple weeks I have been around. 

Oh and firewood for $6

Pretty sure the owner will continue to increase until they see a drop in demand or leveling of revenue. 

Matthew Jaggers · · Red River Gorge · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 695
Doug Chism wrote:

Pretty sure the owner will continue to increase until they see a drop in demand or leveling of revenue. 

Invest in Subaru stock now!

Pnelson · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 635

It's about time...

Chad Hayden · · Cincinnati, OH · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 0

Yeah it’s currently 10 dollars and the system really just kinda sucks. Super sad to see these private individuals profiting off of restricting access to an amazing climbing area. None of this money is going back into the climbing community to help improve the area. 

Matt Robinson · · Saint Petersburg, FL · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 15
Chad Hayden wrote:

Yeah it’s currently 10 dollars and the system really just kinda sucks. Super sad to see these private individuals profiting off of restricting access to an amazing climbing area. None of this money is going back into the climbing community to help improve the area. 

How are they restricting access to climbing by paying to install a parking lot and making their personal property available for people to use for a fee?  The owners could just as easily have chosen to say no trespassing and not allowed parking at all.

The money may not go directly to the climbing community, but it is going to the local community in a county that has a poverty rate about 3 times as high as the national average.  It may not feel great to pay for something that used to be free, but in the end this could be the start of better relationships between the local community and the climbing community. If the locals see that providing amenities to climbers means money for themselves then we'll start seeing more and more amenities geared towards what we care about. 

Matthew Jaggers · · Red River Gorge · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 695

Yeah, but the one local who is profiting from the paid lot is one of the richest, if not the richest person in the area. Id love to hear how he gives back to the community, (not the climbing community), because it would make me feel better about handing a multi millionaire more of my money. Free was nice while it lasted. 

Lincoln S · · Goleta · Joined Jan 2019 · Points: 287

mostly seems to me like the road down to the lower parking is gonna get mcblasted by people wanting free parking with their 2wd, no weight in the back tacomas. not sure who maintains that road but I wonder how the cost of maintaining that thing compares to the cost of building that parking lot.

amarius · · Nowhere, OK · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 20
Lincoln S wrote:

mostly seems to me like the road down to the lower parking is gonna get mcblasted by people wanting free parking with their 2wd, no weight in the back tacomas. not sure who maintains that road but I wonder how the cost of maintaining that thing compares to the cost of building that parking lot.

IIRC it is county road, maintained by county.

DrRockso RRG · · Red River Gorge, KY · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 860

#pavethelodehill

DrRockso RRG · · Red River Gorge, KY · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 860

Oh the horror,  no more cars stuck half way up the hill,  blocking the 20 cars lined up trying to get out on Saturdays.  

Haskie D · · Bofa, Deez · Joined Jun 2019 · Points: 315
amarius wrote:

IIRC it is county road, maintained by county.

maintained by the county, but do you know who is contracted by the county to maintain it? The same guy who owns and charges people in the top lot. 

Matthew Jaggers · · Red River Gorge · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 695
Haskie D wrote:

maintained by the county, but do you know who is contracted by the county to maintain it? The same guy who owns and charges people in the top lot. 

I know the Coalition reaches out to them sometimes when it gets really bad. It's local gov, so no, it's not one toll troll keeping things shitty so you can't go down. You could call them yourself and ask them to fix it. Lol. 

Lena chita · · OH · Joined Mar 2011 · Points: 1,667
DrRockso RRG wrote:

Oh the horror,  no more cars stuck half way up the hill,  blocking the 20 cars lined up trying to get out on Saturdays.  

Have you been down there recently? The last couple weekends when I had gone there in late April/early May there were cars stuck on the hill both times. Cars that had no business going down that hill in the first place. People who were stuck behind them helped push them out.


I did wonder whether it was the desire to save $8 that had prompted the idiots to drive down the hill, or whether it was just garden-variety regular inability to evaluate their car’s (snd their own) capacity.

DrRockso RRG · · Red River Gorge, KY · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 860
Lena chita wrote:

Have you been down there recently? The last couple weekends when I had gone there in late April/early May there were cars stuck on the hill both times. Cars that had no business going down that hill in the first place. People who were stuck behind them helped push them out.


I did wonder whether it was the desire to save $8 that had prompted the idiots to drive down the hill, or whether it was just garden-variety regular inability to evaluate their car’s (snd their own) capacity. 

Sounds like par for the course since long before the paid parking lot.  

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