Which climbing daypack do I get?

Hey y'all, 

It finally happened. My black diamond bullet finally bit it. Looking for a new pack. Online, I saw that the new bullets don't have any external straps. I know it's bad style but I dangle all kinds of shit off my bag so this is a deal breaker. I would be climbing with this bag while leading multipitch. 

I've been looking at the Petzl Bug and the Patagonia Linked. Leaning towards the bug. Anyone use these and have opinions? 

Thanks!

Sean 

Ps- Fun fact.I bought that bullet at nomad ventures in idyllwild. Good times.

I've really enjoyed the Mountain Hardwear Multi-Pitch 20L for a smaller pack and the MH Crag Wagon 45L for a large pack. Both extremely durable.

The Patagonia linked is only available in 28L now; 18L discontinued. I landed on the Osprey mutant 22 and really like it. Comfy, climbs great, and can fit full rack/rope/helmet rain layer/water if you’re cool strapping some stuff to the outside. The ice tool attachment is great too, so if you do winter climbing also it’s good choice.I also own the mountain Hardwear pack, which is more durable and has a water bottle/shoe holder, but is not as flexible so more annoying to climb in, is heavier, and is made out of cotton so not great when it’s wet out.

https://www.enwild.com/ultraspire-bryce-xt.html

This might be an option for you :   outdoorgearlab.com/reviews/…

Anyone in this thread use the mountain hardware alpine light 35 or 50? Curious about it for multiple day hike + multi pitch trad climbs. 

I got the Petzl Bug about 6 months ago and it works great for me. I'm young and small so the pack isn't huge on me. It has 7 daisy chains on the outside, and the rope straps on the sides can be used to rack quickdraws. Relatively comfortable pack, nothing really special. It fits my sport climbing gear perfect. Since you previously used the bullet, this would be a 3 liter step up, so it wouldn't be that different. I can use this pack for almost everything so that's great. Hope that helps.

I’ve had a bug for 15-16 years and it’s beat up but still great. I agree that the bullet is good but would benefit from external loops to clip stuff (I have a bullet also but use the bug usually). 

I have the Linked 18L, and it's a good pack. But all these super small leader packs have to go inside another pack if you don't want a ton of dangling on a longer approach, and the Linked doesn't pack all that small for this purpose.

The Arc'teryx FL30 is incredible. More volume when you need it, but insanely lightweight. Plus it's very durable and can be hauled without shredding. I have the 45L version and don't mind leading with it, but the 30L is better of course. Both are significantly smaller than the #liters would suggest.

T Thumbs wrote:

I've really enjoyed the Mountain Hardwear Multi-Pitch 20L for a smaller pack and the MH Crag Wagon 45L for a large pack. Both extremely durable.

IMO, the old MH mulitpitch25 was the best pack made, hands down. the 16 was nice but doesn't have the rope strap, which is what puts the old-style mp25 above any other pack. Also the fact that I can fit in a full double rack, harness, 3L of liquid, food, and jacket, is pretty insane. The new 20 is a solid choice, and I believe you can re-route the rope strap through the side loops to emulate the old style, 4-point pull of the rope strap (the new 20 is intended to go through the rear carry handle, in 3-point style, which sucks). It's def burly w/ that durable material, though heavier than most bags. If the extra 6oz is keeping you from sending...well, I dunno what to say. :)

+1 for the MH Multi Pitch 20. Super solid bag, comfy, and durable. 

Another vote for the Mutant 22, it’s a great pack for anything other than carrying skis. 

You might be interested to check out the review of the North Face Verto 27 and Simond 22 Alpinism.

https://olympusmountaineering.com/2020/09/02/the-north-face-verto-27-summit-series-backpack-review/

https://olympusmountaineering.com/2020/07/25/simond-alpinism-22-backpack-long-term-review/

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Jared Chrysostom wrote:

Another vote for the Mutant 22, it’s a great pack for anything other than carrying skis. 

Angle carry works pretty well using one of the daisy chain loops and the opposite side haul "tripod" loop, though the added weight risks overstressing the shoulder strap stitching. Mine had to be repaired.

The TUFA is by far the most comfortable Fast and Light pack I've ever used. Made in Montana by hand. https://tufaclimbing.com/products/mochilla

Josh is great and really good at getting these out fast and its pretty affordable for what you get. I have two so I can give one to my followers.

Samuel Ammermann wrote:

Anyone in this thread use the mountain hardware alpine light 35 or 50? Curious about it for multiple day hike + multi pitch trad climbs. 

It would not be my choice for rock routes. The top is delicate.

I have had an Arc'teryx AR 20 for 2 years now and it is a solid day use pack.  Seems a bit small at times and the lid is questionably useful but overall I like it.

If I had to do it again I'd go with the 35L size for the same day use applicability.

After hearing everyone say the BD Bullet was a great rock pack I decided to go with it. But I was also bummed about not having any gear loops on the outside even to clip something to briefly at a belay or something. I found it quite simple to add some gear loops by picking up some 16mm cord and doing some hand-sewn bar tacks to make gear loops. I do not sew and it's the first time I've altered a pack like this but it was pretty easy, if time-consuming. Just an option if you want to stick with the Bullet.

Will WB wrote:

After hearing everyone say the BD Bullet was a great rock pack I decided to go with it. But I was also bummed about not having any gear loops on the outside even to clip something to briefly at a belay or something. I found it quite simple to add some gear loops by picking up some 16mm cord and doing some hand-sewn bar tacks to make gear loops. I do not sew and it's the first time I've altered a pack like this but it was pretty easy, if time-consuming. Just an option if you want to stick with the Bullet.

that's awesome nice work

Thanks Maurice. I'm serious though, it was pretty easy to do. Hardest part was making it as straight as possible. If anyone is curious, I went to Michael's and grabbed some S964 nylon thread (don't ask me what the numbers mean, but it's strong and durable), a needle and thimble (you will definitely want one), and checked out bar tack stitching on YouTube. 

Will WB wrote:

After hearing everyone say the BD Bullet was a great rock pack I decided to go with it. But I was also bummed about not having any gear loops on the outside even to clip something to briefly at a belay or something. I found it quite simple to add some gear loops by picking up some 16mm cord and doing some hand-sewn bar tacks to make gear loops. I do not sew and it's the first time I've altered a pack like this but it was pretty easy, if time-consuming. Just an option if you want to stick with the Bullet.

Really nice idea. I'm gonna borrow it for my backpacking pack.