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Sizing LS Skwamas versus LS Muira VS

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Seanhenry VanDyke · · Oklahoma City, OK · Joined Mar 2021 · Points: 0

Hello, I am a relatively new climber wearing a pair of 42.5 LS Skwamas (my first performance shoe) that fit well but are getting a bit worn down, and I figure I should try some other models of shoe to compare different varieties. I found a pair of 42.5 Muira VS online that I could get a decent deal on, but my local gym doesn't have a pair I can try on. Does anyone have any thoughts on whether the Skwamas size similarly to the Muira VS's? I figure since they are same brand and same closure mechanism (velcro strap) they should but just wanted to ask first in case more experienced folks have other thoughts. Thanks!

Levi X · · Washington · Joined Nov 2017 · Points: 63

https://www.lasportiva.com/en/climbing-shoes-technical-information

BWulf · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2013 · Points: 1

I have to size my Skwamas down a full number from most other Sportiva shoes. I wear a 39.5 in Miura & Testarossa, 39 Futura, and 38.5 Skwama. 

X C · · Yucca Valley · Joined Mar 2010 · Points: 71

I am .5 size down in the skwama (38.5) vs Miura vs(39). The skwama feels significantly wider in the forefoot area as compared to most other LS models, which is what I think accounts for the sizing discrepancy. 

Levi X · · Washington · Joined Nov 2017 · Points: 63
X C wrote:

I am .5 size down in the skwama (38.5) vs Miura vs(39). The skwama feels significantly wider in the forefoot area as compared to most other LS models, which is what I think accounts for the sizing discrepancy. 

Based on the LS website I provided above the skwamas definitely are wider than some LS shoes, but are not the widest available. The chart is pretty handy for figuring out the correct width of the shoe you want. 

nat vorel · · ok · Joined Jul 2017 · Points: 509
Fan Y · · Bishop/Las Vegas · Joined Jun 2011 · Points: 964
Seanhenry VanDyke wrote:

Hello, I am a relatively new climber wearing a pair of 42.5 LS Skwamas (my first performance shoe) that fit well but are getting a bit worn down, and I figure I should try some other models of shoe to compare different varieties. I found a pair of 42.5 Muira VS online that I could get a decent deal on, but my local gym doesn't have a pair I can try on. Does anyone have any thoughts on whether the Skwamas size similarly to the Muira VS's? I figure since they are same brand and same closure mechanism (velcro strap) they should but just wanted to ask first in case more experienced folks have other thoughts. Thanks!

i size mine the same. they should work.

nat vorel · · ok · Joined Jul 2017 · Points: 509

mine are sized the same but since the skwamas only have one closure and my foot is quite narrow, there’s a good amount of dead space in the skwamas. doesn’t really affect the performance for me tho since the length is right and the p3 heel thing keeps my foot in place.

climbing00 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 30

How is the heel tension on the skwama? I had been wanting to try them, but I am currently recovering from a calcaneus fracture and I don't see being able to tolerate much heel tension for a while. 

Seanhenry VanDyke · · Oklahoma City, OK · Joined Mar 2021 · Points: 0

I am probably not a great person to speak to heel tension since I'm not 100% sure what that means... however, I can say that Skwamas are definitely a softer shoe and the middle is very flexible so they are less supportive and you feel each move more, compared to say the Miura VS. So I would say in general not great if you are recovering from a foot injury. As far as the heel specifically, though, it feels snug and comfortable, that's all I can really say about it. 

M D · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2020 · Points: 0

I had a 40 skwama and a 40 miura VS, all I can add is my street size is 40 and I have greek feet, quite a wide forefoot. I sold my 40 miura vs because they never became comfortable. the skwamas have a slight gap now, might even be able to go 39.5 in future. I'd probably get size 40.5 if I were to buy miura vs in future. 

Shane Bonness · · West Lafayette, IN · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 155

I wear a 40.5 in miuras vs and a 39.5 in skwamas. Totally agree with Brian

Seanhenry VanDyke · · Oklahoma City, OK · Joined Mar 2021 · Points: 0
Levi X wrote:

https://www.lasportiva.com/en/climbing-shoes-technical-information

Can anyone clarify why on this chart, the Miuras are shown as for a super narrow foot but the Miura VS's are shown as for a super wide foot? It doesn't make much sense that they would widen the same model so much just for a velcro version -- plus to me it feels like the VS's are still pretty narrow. What is going on there?

Chuffy Chaser · · Pennsyltucky · Joined Dec 2019 · Points: 0
Seanhenry VanDyke wrote:

Can anyone clarify why on this chart, the Miuras are shown as for a super narrow foot but the Miura VS's are shown as for a super wide foot? It doesn't make much sense that they would widen the same model so much just for a velcro version -- plus to me it feels like the VS's are still pretty narrow. What is going on there?

I have no insider knowledge, but my personal experience mirrors the information in that chart. I used to wear Miura laceups almost exclusively, and I tried really hard to be able to fit into Miura VS's but they're either too wide (and the right length) or too short (and the right width) for me. For what it's worth though, the Women's VS seems to have a similar fit to (though much more aggressive than) the Men's laceup. As a sizing reference between the two a performance fit 42.5 in (new/unstretched) Men's laceups feels about equivalent to a performance 42 Women's VS. The laceups will bag out almost a full size over time though, whereas the VS's don't seem to (though I've put many fewer pitches on them).

Irreverent Bastard · · Rexburg · Joined Jul 2017 · Points: 269

full size down from the muira vs! Size and a half if you like em toight. 

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