Adding Routes/Areas

Hello. First timer here. I have a question. How do you add Routes or areas to the Mountain Project map? I am going climbing this weekend in an area that has not been added and would like to add it the map but do not know how. Please help.

It's the route/crag developers choice to list the area not yours.....

So your saying every single crag or route or areas has been added only by developers? I thought one of the points of this app was to be able to add Routes and such. Developers I thought had final say of the area/route made it permanently. That is what all of the other info says online. There should be an "add route" or "add area" text somewhere that allows me to submit and then the developers can approve or deny. It is hard for me to believe that every single crag and route were added by ONLY developers. Too many for that to be the case unless anybody can become a developer.

Its not a "rule" its etiquette.

Anyone is welcome to add a new route or area to MP - it is in no way restricted to developers.  Please get familiar with MP so you have lots of examples of how areas and routes are laid out.  When you're ready to add something, here are some tips: mountainproject.com/help/12…

Nick Wilder wrote:

Anyone is welcome to add a new route or area to MP - it is in no way restricted to developers.  Please get familiar with MP so you have lots of examples of how areas and routes are laid out.  When you're ready to add something, here are some tips: mountainproject.com/help/12…

Thank you for a response that actually held some useful information. You, sir, are a compassionate person and I respect you. I guess my next question is how long it takes for a new area/sub area/ route to show up within MP and MP app? 

The web site is immediate.  The data packs for the mobile app are rebuilt once a week, but then they have to be updated on your phone, which can take another week (and you might have to manually do it - depends on your app settings).

How do I add an area in the app?

Kevin Wagoner wrote:

How do I add an area in the app?

You don't

I’ve added a sport route and it’s not showing up on mountain project. Is it waiting to get approved? I can only see it on the website but not in the app 

Aidan Francis wrote:

I’ve added a sport route and it’s not showing up on mountain project. Is it waiting to get approved? I can only see it on the website but not in the app 

I’m having same problem, did it ever show up on app

Grantham Dyer wrote:

I’m having same problem, did it ever show up on app

Yeah it eventually shows up on the app

Nick Wilder wrote:

The web site is immediate.  The data packs for the mobile app are rebuilt once a week, but then they have to be updated on your phone, which can take another week (and you might have to manually do it - depends on your app settings).

How do you manually update on your phone? I have an apple, but am not Tech savvy. I added a sub area & some routes in New Jack City a month ago & am still not seeing on the app.

Hey Grantham, when you open the app, any downloaded areas will appear toward the bottom half of the home screen with Update buttons. You can also use the "Manage Areas" button at the bottom to download areas, delete downloaded areas, update areas, or download/delete downloaded photos.

Zander Göpfert wrote:

Hey Grantham, when you open the app, any downloaded areas will appear toward the bottom half of the home screen with Update buttons. You can also use the "Manage Areas" button at the bottom to download areas, delete downloaded areas, update areas, or download/delete downloaded photos.

Thank you, Zander my California is not showing an available update, everything looks great on the website location, description, photos! But nothing on app

It would be nice for you to speak with some locals and possibly the developers to get a feel for the climate around access, land managers, politics of management plans, local ethics, etc. then make your decision wether or not to add routes. I am not telling you wether or not to do so. I am just making the suggestion to not fall into the pattern that some climbers often do:

Discover a “new to you area”, get psyched, want to “share the info” with the community, want to feel the rewards of making valuable contributions to the climbing community, post a bunch of climbs quickly, possibly incorrectly enter names, bolt counts, route lengths, camping beta, (insert any other valuable information). Then find out that there is a local PDF/topo that someone would be happy to give you that is much better and does not come with the (insert link to thread) baggage of posing crags on MTN Proj. Then get painted as the over psyched gumby that “just wanted to do good” but gave unretractable information to mtn proj. This story is repeated all the time and Mtn Proj admins and people at OnX Maps are currently trying to wade these very turbulent and new waters. So please, without making assumptions on your particular situation just know that this issue does exist and is very real at the moment. Consider the issues and know that the Admins have a vested interest in collecting more info about all the small wonderful little crags hiding in the woods.

My more biased opinionated opinion: How does mountain project give back to these areas? How does OnX give back? How much Mountain Profit is going back to the hills that enrich this database? How much Mountain Profit is going back to the developers? There is so much protential for good on this app, but I would love to see the plans for the question I asked above. I would love for OnX to ask the Proj community “how can we do good?” And become active in bolstering/nurturing all of the delicate resources that feed the database as well as the developers. 

Grantham Dyer wrote:

Thank you, Zander my California is not showing an available update, everything looks great on the website location, description, photos! But nothing on app

Sent you a DM to troubleshoot further. Let me know if you don't get it. 

Cole Lawrence wrote:

It would be nice for you to speak with some locals and possibly the developers to get a feel for the climate around access, land managers, politics of management plans, local ethics, etc. then make your decision wether or not to add routes. I am not telling you wether or not to do so. I am just making the suggestion to not fall into the pattern that some climbers often do:

Discover a “new to you area”, get psyched, want to “share the info” with the community, want to feel the rewards of making valuable contributions to the climbing community, post a bunch of climbs quickly, possibly incorrectly enter names, bolt counts, route lengths, camping beta, (insert any other valuable information). Then find out that there is a local PDF/topo that someone would be happy to give you that is much better and does not come with the (insert link to thread) baggage of posing crags on MTN Proj. Then get painted as the over psyched gumby that “just wanted to do good” but gave unretractable information to mtn proj. This story is repeated all the time and Mtn Proj admins and people at OnX Maps are currently trying to wade these very turbulent and new waters. So please, without making assumptions on your particular situation just know that this issue does exist and is very real at the moment. Consider the issues and know that the Admins have a vested interest in collecting more info about all the small wonderful little crags hiding in the woods.

My more biased opinionated opinion: How does mountain project give back to these areas? How does OnX give back? How much Mountain Profit is going back to the hills that enrich this database? How much Mountain Profit is going back to the developers? There is so much protential for good on this app, but I would love to see the plans for the question I asked above. I would love for OnX to ask the Proj community “how can we do good?” And become active in bolstering/nurturing all of the delicate resources that feed the database as well as the developers.

Thanks Cole, I am well aware of all this, I have added a small sub wall in the middle of a very well developed sport route area on BLM land