Red Rock entry reservation
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travel143 wrote: If you're in the gate before eight (that rhymes!), you don't need a reservation. |
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I mean a day pass entry. |
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travel143 wrote: Try to get in before 8 AM, then you don't need a pass. |
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FrankPS wrote: That's incorrect, you still need a pass (day pass or annual parks pass), you just don't need a reservation. Gates open at 6AM, reservations start 8AM. |
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FrankPS wrote: We were also possibly considering an April trip (cancelled last year). Would not be planning early starts or long days so would be after 8.00am getting to loop road. It looks like all of March would be available right now. So I am thinking April should also be low risk trying to get a day reservation if we booked a week in advance? Thoughts? I saw some posts about cars broken into and vandalized in the Calico basin area. Is that still a worry? |
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April is spring break time and historically one of the busiest times of the year. Not sure how the pandemic will affect it this year though. Honestly though, if you are not doing long days then why even come to red rock? Long days in the canyons are what is special about red rock. There are better sport climbing areas. |
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Kevin Heckeler wrote: Yeah, you pay the fee at the gate to get your day pass. Point is, you don't need anything in advance to enter before 8. Edit: Break-ins are a concern regardless of where you are in RR. |
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Ashort wrote: Ah....I was hoping April would be considered too warm for most climbers and would be quiet, but sounds not the case. And we woild be spring break week. Most other sport areas don’t offer so much low (very low) grade sport and knowing here to head in RR is a big bonus as well. But any other suggestions? Only one kid can lead belay/lead climb and she can only realistically safely belay the smaller parent. |
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Mum Climber wrote: Unfortunately for the world, many college kids have no concept of "too warm" to climb. I remember my college days sweltering at crags that I had no business being at because I didn't know any better and the stoke was too high. |
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So if want to reservation for entry at 9:00am on April 4, what day does the reservation for entry begin on rec.gov? |
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Mum Climber wrote: Not that we need kids or more bodies necessarily at one of the busiest climbing areas in the country, it sounds like Red Rocks is very much in line with all of your various needs. The main issue I see for you is even after getting the reservation, getting in there after 8AM (most climbers do) and competing for someplace to climb. On a random weekend day this past weekend, we saw two or more climbers at every wall at the First Pullout by lunchtime. Fairly busy for a random winter weekend day. Being that travel was lessened a lot last year, and will be more realistic this April (assuming things stay on track), I suspect it to be fairly busy this April with all the pent up climbing stoke. I also want to note that very few climbers had masks, this included groups of people casually climbing next to strangers and/or people not of their immediate household. If you're trying to avoid getting sick (and have not recently had Covid/gained immunity/vaccine), and knowing herd immunity even by best estimates isn't until sometime later in the Summer, you may also want to take this into consideration. [PSA: being outdoors does reduce the chances of it spreading by air, but it does not eliminate it. It still comes down to duration and distance. How long you're around them and how far apart you are. Being right next to someone climbing/belaying for 20 minutes in light wind has some, albeit, nominal risk. If courtesy of wearing a mask in that situation was extended, the risk would be brought down to almost zero... but alas that seems to be too much to ask, even for 'liberal minded' climbing types. The warmer the temps get the less and less we'll see people wearing masks, too. By April I may be only one in Vegas climbing with a mask on/around their neck.] |
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Mum Climber wrote: That makes a lot of sense. If your kids like scrambling at all there are some amazing routes/scrambles to do in the canyons, depending on their ability. |
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Kevin Heckeler wrote: I think it will probably not be this year, more me just being hopeful and thinking “what if”. We are not ready to get on a plane yet. Thanks to those that replied, sorry to hijak the thread. |
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Mum Climber, Red Rock belongs to your children just as much as it does to the scowlers. I hope your family is able to make the visit someday and if I see your kids I promise not to scowl. |
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Most colleges and universities have eliminated spring break this year to prevent students from traveling and returning to campus. |
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To the OP, RR does have some great sport in your range. That said expect it to be PACKED and parking at your arrival time could be impossible on weekends. I could certainly recommend much better locations for your needs. |
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Mick wrote: 100% this, I never realized red rock was adults only. Don't ever feel bad for bringing the kids, not matter what kevin says. There are groups of boulderes that go out to kraft with kids all the time, it's a blast. In fact I wish there were MORE kids out at red rock, they are way cooler than some of the adults! |
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Mum Climber wrote: As Ashort said, April spring break is one of the busiest weeks in RR. Other locations you might consider are basing in St George and looking at the easy basalt and limestone sport in the area. If you based in Bishop, CA, there are plenty of easy sport routes at Alabama hills in Lone Pine (an hour away) and the ORG in Bishop, and even some at places like Fashion Slabs in Pine Creek at a bit higher elevation that can be fine in April depending on the snow levels. Both of those locations are very beautiful and have plenty to do besides climbing. St George is 1.5 hrs from Zion National Park which is spectacular. |