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Thoughts on the mammut trion Nordwand 15

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Eliot Hack · · New England · Joined May 2020 · Points: 1

Thinking about getting this pack for fast and light multi pitch ice, and crossover to summer alpine climbing. Any recommendations, thoughts on this pack specifically?

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 276

That is an expensive 15L pack.

Eliot Hack · · New England · Joined May 2020 · Points: 1
FrankPS wrote:

That is an expensive 15L pack.

Damn thanks for the insight. 

Eliot Hack · · New England · Joined May 2020 · Points: 1

Alternative  reccomendations? 

Willow Mae · · Maine · Joined Nov 2018 · Points: 11

BD rock blitz 15L, or BD blitz 20L

DeLa Cruce · · SWEDEN · Joined Nov 2018 · Points: 0

just get it. i doubt you’ll hate it. mammut makes good stuff and good looking stuff 

Karl Henize · · Boulder, CO · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 643

Any ice and mixed climbers have a review of this pack?  

I personally love running vest style packs and this seems like the most ice/ alpine climbing oriented that I have seen.  Has anyone come up with a better way to carry Type 2 ice tools on it than shown in the marketing photo below?

Bel Aoros · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2023 · Points: 0

Samaya ULTRA Pace

Deuter Vertrail

Wesley Dickerson · · Boulder, CO · Joined Oct 2020 · Points: 30
Karl Henize wrote:

Has anyone come up with a better way to carry Type 2 ice tools on it than shown in the marketing photo below?

You can feed the loops through the head like in the picture, but then connect to the vertical daisy chains above somehow. Bendable gear ties work well for that and also can secure the opposite tool’s pick to keep it all tight.

I’ve used this pack quite a bit for day hiking and multi-pitch rock with a short approaches since last fall, but still find myself grabbing my old Cold Cold World pack for anything on ice. 15L is not enough for what I choose to carry ice climbing but I’m sure some people can make it work.

Karl Henize · · Boulder, CO · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 643

Thanks.  Looks good.  It seems like you could use a small keychain carabiner to clip the daisy chain and trap the opposite pick a little bit more efficiently than using the bendable gear tie.

Mark Pilate · · MN · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 25

Are the loops too small to do it the “std way”?  Or do you want faster retrieval?   I guess the extra few  secs to insert the axe the normal way never really bothered me.  Usually keeps it all nice and tight .

Karl Henize · · Boulder, CO · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 643
Mark Pilate wrote:

Are the loops too small to do it the “std way”?  Or do you want faster retrieval?   I guess the extra few  secs to insert the axe the normal way never really bothered me.  Usually keeps it all nice and tight .

The loops are too small for Type 2 ice tool heads (i.e. Sum’Tec).  The loops are sized to tightly fit the smaller heads of Type 1 Ice Axes (i.e., Gully).

Eliot Hack · · New England · Joined May 2020 · Points: 1

I did in fact end up acquiring this pack. What i did was use two more Velcro straps at the bottom of the daisy chain. Essentially slotting the pick into a loop and then velcroing the shaft near the head. So essentially it was two velcro straps holding each tool on. 

Karl Henize · · Boulder, CO · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 643
Eliot Hack wrote:

I did in fact end up acquiring this pack. What i did was use two more Velcro straps at the bottom of the daisy chain. Essentially slotting the pick into a loop and then velcroing the shaft near the head. So essentially it was two velcro straps holding each tool on. 

Any issues / complaints about the pack?  How well is the fabric holding up?

Eliot Hack · · New England · Joined May 2020 · Points: 1
Karl Henize wrote:

Any issues / complaints about the pack?  How well is the fabric holding up?

No complaints. Good pack all around. Reasonably durable. As in body of pack is good. Running harness obviously wears quicker but not of concern

Karl Henize · · Boulder, CO · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 643

Thanks!

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