Mountain Project Data API deprecated

I noticed found out that the MP data API is depricated deprecated from this page: mountainproject.com/data

It says that you can continue to use the API if you are already doing so. Does this mean that you can only use the API if you already have a key, or is there another API (as opposed to the data API) that I am not aware of?

I'm wondering if this is a step toward pay-walling content or if there is another API under development.

Edit: Fixed my spelling errors because my misspelling of the word 'deprecated' caused my post to be incomprehensible. Unfortunately I can't fix the title, but I meant deprecated there too, in case that is confusing to anyone.

Edit: Turns out I'm either unobservant, or you can only edit the title from the browser.

Edit: I'm unobservant, I went back into mobile and you can edit it there too. Looks like 2021 is gonna be a rough year for me.

Jesse Martin wrote:

I noticed that the MP data API is depricated from this page: mountainproject.com/data

It say that you can continue to use the API if you are already doing so. Does this mean that you can only use the API if you already have a key, or is there another API (as opposed to the data API) that I am not aware of?

I'm wondering if this is a step toward pay-walling content or if there is another API under development.

I don't think there is a word, "depricated." If you meant "deprecate," that isn't a correct usage, either. What did you mean?

Kevin Beverly wrote:

IMO the route database should have been turned over to access fund or operated under a wiki-media like model a long time ago. 

That's a good point. I personally wouldn't mind a premium service being added, as long as the community sourced data is still free on the main app.

FrankPS wrote:

I don't think there is a word, "depricated." If you meant "deprecate," that isn't a correct usage, either. What did you mean?

I know, google is hard

FrankPS wrote:

If you meant "deprecate," that isn't a correct usage, either.

It is in computer software. 

Jesse Martin wrote:

Edit: Fixed my spelling errors because my misspelling of the word 'deprecated' caused my post to be incomprehensible. Unfortunately I can't fix the title, but I meant deprecated there too, in case that is confusing to anyone.

If you edit your OP, you can also edit the title. 

Allow me to introduce you all.

Everyone, this is FrankPS. FrankPS, this is everyone. Frank is one of the resident trolls here at mountainproject.com. I usually just toss him a few Cheetos whenever I cross a bridge. My editing of the original post was an effort to feed him, #pleasefeedthetrolls.

Anyway... about that API   

There are two alternative and active open source projects (The 2nd one is mine)

https://github.com/derekantrican/MountainProject

https://openbeta.io/api

vietgoeswest wrote:

There are two alternative and active open source projects (The 2nd one is mine)

https://github.com/derekantrican/MountainProject

https://openbeta.io/api

Thanks, I was really hoping for an official API but it appears that's not happening. I was hoping to avoid a solution that involves scraping because of the gray area that can fall into. I will look into these projects and potentially shoot you an email. The UI/Docs on your site look super clean  

I kind of hope MP doesn't fall into the Instagram-type TOS (where the content is not protected w/ login/password so each post/photo/video can be shared, but you can't browse related posts w/o a login and scraping of any form is prohibited), but my gut tells me that's where it's headed. The whole putting the "Latest Posts" behind a login (what exactly does it accomplish?) was step one.

Kevin Beverly wrote:

Better watch-out for blood thirsty lawyers from #onXhunt with the scary cease and desist letter.

Kevin Beverly wrote:

Better watch-out for blood thirsty lawyers from #onXhunt with the scary cease and desist letter.

Can you explain the onXhunt connection?

vietgoeswest wrote:

There are two alternative and active open source projects (The 2nd one is mine)

https://github.com/derekantrican/MountainProject

https://openbeta.io/api

I'm new to this whole thing (API's/DB's/etc) but have been able to basic things with the data you extracted, so first of all thank you! I was wondering though, are you still able to obtain the Canadian data from MP? I assume getting an access key may be more difficult now? Scraping doesn't seem too difficult though, I did scrape Sendage.com data quite easily as I was learning. 

I just stumbled upon this and wanted to bump it.

... onX ... what a shitty company.

Openbeta looks like a great alternative. I created an account

Luke Lalor wrote:

I just stumbled upon this and wanted to bump it.

... onX ... what a shitty company.

Openbeta looks like a great alternative. I created an account

There’s no requirement for any company that has data to even provide an API let alone maintain it. Even if the data is crowd sourced. 

I'm complaining about onX and the impact they have are having on Mountain Project and the climbing community, not suing them.

Sure, but you said “shitty company”.  The only impact of removing the API is making it difficult for those who want to skate on the work of others who are doing the thankless task of designing and maintaining a database. I don’t blame them for removal of a *free* API. 

Marc801 C wrote:

Sure, but you said “shitty company”.  The only impact of removing the API is making it difficult for those who want to skate on the work of others who are doing the thankless task of designing and maintaining a database. I don’t blame them for removal of a *free* API. 

I don’t think onx has done much but reinstate ads and host the data/site. I bet it took more work for them to deprecate the api but whatever. Glad I stumbled upon this thread, specifically for those two other projects that are happening. Right on! #opensourcemountainproject

edit: I took more time to think about what onx has done and I’ll have to agree. They’re pretty shitty. People have given a lot of time, and continue to do so, on mp, building content. No, there’s no rule that they had to keep the apis open and no they don’t have to open source , but locking it down, imo, is the definition of shitty. I could go on, but it’s not worth it. There’s a huge difference between companies who believe in community and build it via open source models, sharing data, and open communication and companies who….buy data collected over years by a community and lock it down. Whatever

It seems that the Mountain Project API can no longer be used with existing keys. https://www.mountainproject.com/data (which formerly displayed the deprecation notice) and endpoints like https://www.mountainproject.com/data/get-ticks now return 404 errors. I think that this happened in the last month or so.

I’ll reiterate the “shitty”

https://eveningsends.com/the-future-of-climbing-guides-must-be-open-source/