Which tent for AK ski touring?
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I'm looking at 4 season tents for overnight and multi-day ski tours over winter and spring. I live in Alaska so I'm looking for something that can handle heavy snow loads and strong winds, up to say 70mph gusts. Looking for something fairly light but still pretty bomber - somewhere on the spectrum between a BD first light and a MHW Trango. I have pro deals for Nemo, BD, MHW and Big agnes, so I've been looking at those brands mostly. The BD bibler tents all seem like great options as light, sturdy tents, however they have been out of stock forever and I don't want to wait all winter for them to restock. The MHW AC2 looks like a newer version of the Direkt2 with a heavier denier fabric, and seems pretty comparable to the bibler tents. This seems my most likely option. Whats it like cooking inside a tent like that? I'd love to hear any suggestions from you and any experience you have with the above tents! Thanks! |
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I have a Bibler I-Tent if you want it. Never used, PM me. |
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Lots of tents out of stock, must be pandemic related. I would have said Rab Latok Mountain if you want something roughly comparable to the Eldorado. Equally proven (Rab got the design from Integral Designs like BD did from Bibler), good materials (eVent, DAC). Roomier than most bivy tents. Sadly looks like a supply issue too. My problem with most of these is they're sized for children. Do you fit in a Firstlight? If so that opens up your options. MHW don't give specs on fabric breathability or even use the word "breathable" which doesn't instill confidence, but maybe it's an oversight. I might go for the BA Shield simply for them giving some reasonable fabric specs. And I kinda hate pole sleeves. Single wall bivy tents can sometimes suck for multiple nights but they're lighter obviously so it comes down to what you're willing to carry and how luxurious you want your tent time to be. Something more towards the Trango end of the spectrum (but still significantly lighter) would be the Hilleberg Jannu or Nemo Chogori. True measured 70mph winds are gonna start to suck in most tents. I'd want some snow walls. Cooking - if no vestibule and weather precludes doing it outside: canister stove, hanging kit, vent and try not to die :-) |
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Hilleberg. |
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Jamie, I have a Trango 2 (previous build which is really just color...) and a AC2. The Trango is more versatile as it is larger, more vestibule room ( so easy to cook) and could be used four season. It is a proven workhorse in high wind storms and snow load as it has been a staple on expeditions fir a long time. It is not light nor does it pack small and setup is a art to do quickly at all but once it’s up and all those clips are clipped it is a haven in a storm. The AC2 is in my opinion a very good single wall tent. I use it alone and with two people it would be snug as in sleeping pads basically touching. If you are tall your head and feet would be fully using every inch of length. Setup is pretty quick although the pole/ pole sleeve combo is very tight when flexing into place. I think this is partially the use of x-pac fabric for the sleeves which has zero stretch... I assume designed that way for staying tight and stable in a storm. It seems average to low for condensation build but again it’s just me ( sometimes my small dog) and not two people breathing vapor. I have used it in some medium wind and snow and it was easily up to the task. Once it is up it is as tight and stable feeling as any tent I have used. It pack crazy small for what it is and is average light for a stronger single wall that should last vs a super light tent you might get multiple trips out of. I have the add on vestibuLe but have never used it, it adds a bunch of storage and is very compact. When I was looking for a single wall I felt the other two contenders where the BA Shield ( very comparable to AC2) and the RAB which I remember as being smaller? In general single wall is great in cold but not great warmer or in wet. Z |
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Floorless pyramid tents are my go-to for ski touring. They have more space inside than a 2 pole mountain tent, and you don't have to worry about getting snow inside. You can sculpt the snow into comfortable beds and cook areas. Cuben fiber fabric (DCF) tents from Hyperlite, Bear Paw Wilderness Design, and Mountain Laurel are all good choices. Black Diamond makes a pyramid in silnylon if you need to buy from BD. Stake them out with your skis. Use your poles for the center pole support. Bomber, light, spacious shelter. |
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For ski touring I’ve used a series of single walled tents; Bibler Eldorado, BD Firstlight & HiLight, MH Direkt2, all of which are freestanding and light, but have a lot of condensation and in winter frost from breathing/sleeping. I’m now using a Slingfin Crossbow2. It’s 4 season, freestanding, double walled with good ventilation, and fairly light. Easy to setup in high winds with it’s exoskeleton pole system, is what drew my interest to Slingfin in the beginning. All of the single wall tents are pretty hard to put up in strong winds. The Crossbow2 is very strong with internal guylines, spacious inside with more vertical walls than most tents, and double vestibules. Highly recommended! https://www.slingfin.com/products/crossbow-2-four-season Another benefit of the Cossbow2 is you can use different inner tent configurations such as the Mesh body or StormPak for other seasons. |
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Glen Prior wrote: Hilleberg. Second that. I have there lightest black label tent Nammetij (sp?). 5 lbs or so and bomber. Sold my single wall and no regrets. |