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The best ice gloves just got better

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Doug Hutchinson · · Seattle and Eastrevy · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 346

At long last, you don't need to mod a gauntlet onto the Showa Temres 282's, for under $22, they did it for you. I prefer the signature Smurf blue color, but the gauntlet, cinch cord, and glove clips on the new 282-02s appear high quality. 

I said it before, and I'll say it again, slap a Dead Bird logo on these, and most climbers would be stoked to pay 10 times what Showa is selling them for. 

So far, this is the only place I have found them:

https://www.go2marine.com/showa-282-temres-gloves?quantity=1&size=504

Some more hope that 2020 might turn around...

Dr Worm · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 115

Even without the gauntlet, these are the best ice gloves made for when it is cold.

nic houser · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 10

Thanks!

DeLa Cruce · · SWEDEN · Joined Nov 2018 · Points: 0

yup, that’s what we use on the boats in Alaska for winter time, the blue ones at least. Good to know that LFS is selling them

jdejace · · New England · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 5

Thanks for the tip. Limited sizing right now unfortunately. Hopefully supply will pop up before the thick of ice season. 

I find the blue fishing gloves pretty good. They are not very warm so I size up 2x (everyone should go up at least 1 size) to fit a liner. They would probably be fine for most people out West where it's not as cold. Also they are bulky (whatever size you end up choosing) and don't dry fast. But a bargain regardless. 

Mark Pilate · · MN · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 25

Fingers are not fitted enough for my clipping satisfaction.  YMMV. 

jdejace · · New England · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 5

Agreed, a relatively bulky and as a result less dextrous option for sure. But good value. 

Sean M · · Victor, MT · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 43

What gloves are you guys using that have more dexterity than these? Are you climbing in fleece/silk liners? Been climbing with the smurfs for a few years, and I've found the dexterity, clipping, etc is by far the best I've found for the warmth/waterproof-ness they provide, not even bringing up the awesome low cost. If you do a good job of keeping them pre-warmed, I've climbed with them in new england on super cold single digit days on the Dike, on the rockpile, etc with no liner and they feel great. Just bring a set of belay gloves to change into.

Compared to punishers, I feel like I have way more dexterity in these. 

jdejace · · New England · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 5

We just have different paws and physiology :-) 

I find the Punishers warmer and more dextrous. The smurfs aren't as trim fitting in the fingers, the palm isn't pre-bent, material bunches up. 

The smurfs are not warm enough for me for NE winter (without liners) but for $20 they're worth a shot for anyone needing gloves. 

greggrylls · · Salt Lake City · Joined Apr 2016 · Points: 276

Thanks for the tip!  Have been waiting for these to be in stock in the US.  just ordered 8 pairs.  

Bulk order for myself and friends.  

I personally wear size larges for ice climbing in utah.  XLs are for multi day/mountaineering trip where I need a liner under then for additional warmth.  

Sean M · · Victor, MT · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 43
jdejace wrote:

We just have different paws and physiology :-) 

I find the Punishers warmer and more dextrous. The smurfs aren't as trim fitting in the fingers, the palm isn't pre-bent, material bunches up. 

The smurfs are not warm enough for me for NE winter (without liners) but for $20 they're worth a shot for anyone needing gloves. 

fair enough, humans are so weird in our variation haha. When I wear punishers I fumble clips like a mofo, but I can clip like a dream in the smurfs. The only downside with the smurfs for me is that the exterior is SO grabby/high friction that when placing screws, I get nervous when I'm doing the first few delicate half-turns that the material will grab the screw and knock it out when i'm rotating my hand. 

greggrylls · · Salt Lake City · Joined Apr 2016 · Points: 276
Sean M wrote:

, I get nervous when I'm doing the first few delicate half-turns that the material will grab the screw and knock it out when i'm rotating my hand. 

Same!!!! I do wish the fingers were a bit longer but after using them they feel just as dexterous as much lighter fancy climbing gloves I own.  

I think people are always skeptical that's it's a budget thing.  While I appreciate how low the cost is, I have a few pairs of very expensive climbing gloves getting dusty once I started using these gloves.  They are really that good IMO.

Doug Hutchinson · · Seattle and Eastrevy · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 346
jdejace wrote:

I find the Punishers warmer and more dextrous. The smurfs aren't as trim fitting in the fingers, the palm isn't pre-bent, material bunches up. 

I agree about the Punishers being warmer but I am definitely in the Temres are more dextrous camp. The Temres are pre-bent, a little less than the Punishers, but the lack of seams and extra material make the Temres feel a lot more nimble to me.

Punishers on left, Showas 282-02s on right:

jdejace · · New England · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 5

I took the ice gear out of storage and I think you're probably right, I'm just biased because I've mostly been using my bigger pairs of smurfs with liners. 

I did always find the smurfs getting caught more in carabiner gates, even my smaller sized ones that I can't fit a liner in. I think just because they're sticky and flexible. 

But my characterization of smurfs as less dextrous overall was likely unfair. If they fit you well and your hands stay warm sans liner you might love them. The Punishers fit my long skinny piano hands better. 

I have 3 pairs of each so I've got no dog in this fight. I use the smurfs on approaches and easy ice. But not my favorite lead gloves personally. As I said above, for $20 silly not to try them. 

Dallin Carey · · Missoula · Joined Aug 2014 · Points: 222

I would  love to try these out, but an unsure of fit. Looks like the site only has Large and X Large. I'm a Medium in OR and BD gloves, but a large in Rab and Mountain Equipment. Can anyone comment how accurate the size is?

jdejace · · New England · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 5

I'd try Large. 

My Punishers are Large and fit well. 

I have XL smurfs that fit my hand ok without a liner (the fingers are short, I think that may be just typical Japanese sizing). 

I use the XXLs with OR PL150s. 

Dr Worm · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 115
Dallin Carey wrote:

I would  love to try these out, but an unsure of fit. Looks like the site only has Large and X Large. I'm a Medium in OR and BD gloves, but a large in Rab and Mountain Equipment. Can anyone comment how accurate the size is?

Probably large. 

greggrylls · · Salt Lake City · Joined Apr 2016 · Points: 276

Contrary to krimpit's claim I have average to small hands. (Although I ooze testosterone so that's probably where he got confused) 

  I just checked and my mountain equipment super alpine gloves and my rab latoks are size medium.  I would size up in these if you're in doubt.  I would say they run exactly one size smaller*** than US sizing IMO.  Specifically if you have long fingers.   

since you're between sizes I'm not sure.   At the price maybe order a pair of large and XLs

Hopefully that helps. 

greggrylls · · Salt Lake City · Joined Apr 2016 · Points: 276

Base of palm to middle finger is 7-7.5 inches for me.  Any longer and I think the L gloves will feel short on your fingers.  

Nick Goldsmith · · NEK · Joined Aug 2009 · Points: 460

I just ordered a pair. can't lose..  worst case scenario they end up being work gloves. I have been leading in deerskin work gloves that I get at a local shoe store. 

JaredG · · Tucson, AZ · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 17

Thoughts on using these for skiing or alpine climbing? I'm no ice climber but I love a good deal, and my old snow mitts are no longer waterproof.

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