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Does Horse Flats “area closed” mean closed to climbing?

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Elliot Min · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2019 · Points: 0

Please pardon my ignorance.  The NP website says the Horse Flat “area” is closed, but I wasn’t sure if this meant the campground is closed, or if there is no climbing allowed either.  TIA!

Mike Stephan · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2017 · Points: 1,188

My understanding is it means the campground is closed.  Climbing should be okay.

Fat Dad · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 60

Anyone know how the area fared in the Bobcat Fire?  My understanding is that some of the area around Chilao burned.

David N · · Los angeles · Joined May 2017 · Points: 5

Colin Sander · · Los Angeles · Joined Oct 2014 · Points: 126

It seems like the wilderness is open where the boulders are in the new closure map, but that the hwy 2 closures occur twice before you get to the horse flats entrance..

maybe there is a paved way around slightly north (seems to work via google maps) or maybe it is dirt / FS roads. I have been wanting to get up as well, but remember one of the original orders closing things until April 2022 !! Horse Flats seems to be right on the edge. Temps are primo but I bet big burn scars are visible from there now. Elliot / Mike maybe a phone call will give more info. interested to hear. 

David N · · Los angeles · Joined May 2017 · Points: 5

David N · · Los angeles · Joined May 2017 · Points: 5

You can get there, pretty sure you have to walk from upper gate though. 

Colin Sander · · Los Angeles · Joined Oct 2014 · Points: 126

Beautiful, David.. Thanks for the detail map.

I visited a few times last year in Nov & Dec and it was just glorious. Hope the land can heal quickly from this fire.  <3

David N · · Los angeles · Joined May 2017 · Points: 5

I pulled this off the HWY 2 Facebook page, whoever runs that and the Angeles National Forest page have almost real time updates on the HWY/forest conditions. 

Fat Dad · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 60

Here's what Caltrans reports as of today.  I don't know how far Santa Clara Divide Rd. is from Newcomb's Ranch, but it's less than 3.3 miles then you're good.  

This highway information is the latest reported as of Friday, November 13th, 2020 at 01:22 PM.

SR 2

[IN THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA]
IS CLOSED FROM 10.5 MI EAST OF LA CANADA-FLINTRIDGE /AT RED BOX RD/ TO 14.6 MI EAST OF LA CANADA-FLINTRIDGE /AT UPPER BIG TUJUNGA RD/ (LOS ANGELES CO) - DUE TO A WILDFIRE - MOTORISTS ARE ADVISED TO USE AN ALTERNATE ROUTE

IS CLOSED FROM 3.3 MI EAST OF NEWCOMB'S RANCH TO ISLIP SADDLE (LOS ANGELES CO) 24 HRS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK - DUE TO A WILDFIRE CLEANUP - MOTORISTS ARE ADVISED TO USE AN ALTERNATE ROUTE

IS CLOSED FROM THE JCT OF SR 39 /AT ISLIP SADDLE/ TO VINCENT GULCH RD /IN VINCENT GAP/ (LOS ANGELES CO) - DUE TO WILDFIRE CLEANUP - MOTORISTS ARE ADVISED TO USE AN ALTERNATE ROUTE

IS CLOSED FROM 5 MI WEST OF BIG PINES TO 2.7 MI WEST OF BIG PINE /AT GRASSY HOLLOW CAMPGROUNDS/ (LOS ANGELES CO) - DUE TO ADVERSE WEATHER - MOTORISTS ARE ADVISED TO USE AN ALTERNATE ROUTE

CHAINS OR SNOW TIRES ARE REQUIRED FROM 1 MI EAST TO 3 MI EAST OF NEWCOMB'S RANCH (LOS ANGELES CO)

PLEASE RESEARCH CHAIN CONTROL LOCATIONS AS CALTRANS IS CURRENTLY WORKING TO UPDATE CHAIN CONTROL DESCRIPTIONS FOR CONSISTENCY WITH INTERNET MAPPING, LIKE GOOGLE MAPS & MAPQUEST.

1-WAY CONTROLLED TRAFFIC AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS FROM 14.6 MI EAST OF LA CANADA-FLINTRIDGE /AT UPPER BIG TUNJUNGA RD/ TO THE JCT OF SR 39 /ISLIP SADDLE/ (LOS ANGELES CO) 24 HRS A DAY - DUE TO WILDFIRE CLEANUP - MOTORISTS ARE ADVISED TO USE AN ALTERNATE ROUTE

ALL TRACTOR-SEMI TRAILER COMBINATIONS WITH 3 AXLES OR GREATER ARE PROHIBITED FROM THE JCT OF I 210 /IN LA CANADA-FLINTRIDGE/ TO THE ANGELES FOREST HIGHWAY (LOS ANGELES CO) - ALTERNATE ROUTES ARE AVAILABLE

Matt Schilowitz · · California · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 381

Has anyone been up there recently?

Colin Sander · · Los Angeles · Joined Oct 2014 · Points: 126

Went up last Saturday 6:30 - 9a by myself, was relieved or downright overjoyed? To see that most of the fire damage was not anywhere near the actual Horse Flats area... totally untouched (even though it was within the burn boundaries) 


road is/was open to campground gate. the bit of extra driving (15 mi ish each way) bc of the HWY2 closure did add some time. a lot of cyclists and Porsche / motorcycle enthusiasts up there as usual.

Go get it and enjoy before the upper gate closes for winter ! And then bring your bike : ) 

Matt Schilowitz · · California · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 381
Colin Sander wrote:

Went up last Saturday 6:30 - 9a by myself, was relieved or downright overjoyed? To see that most of the fire damage was not anywhere near the actual Horse Flats area... totally untouched (even though it was within the burn boundaries) 


road is/was open to campground gate. the bit of extra driving (15 mi ish each way) bc of the HWY2 closure did add some time. a lot of cyclists and Porsche / motorcycle enthusiasts up there as usual.

Go get it and enjoy before the upper gate closes for winter ! And then bring your bike : ) 

Thanks for the update!

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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