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Yosemite Climbers’ Ranch
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Someday there will be a Yosemite Climbers’ Ranch. It might take ten years, but hey that gives us time to put some thought into it. What’s the best location? What type of accommodation do you crazy kids want? Van parking? Tent sites? Yurts? Tiny house? Faux-boulder caves with ringtails? What services would it provide beyond camping? (water, bathroom, ping-pong table, electricity, WiFI etc) Who is the best owner / operator (private, existing non-profit, new B-Corp, etc)? What would you pay? Reservation or walk up? What else? And yes, I’m serious. This will happen. |
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Different accommodations and prices for everyone’s budget? Long and short stays Food / grocery store and/or a kitchen Ringtails to play and cuddle with thank you |
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Let's buy Tioga Pass Resort . |
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To piggyback on this thread... https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/8651-8692-Bull-Creek-Rd-Coulterville-CA-95311/2077770946_zpid/ Is that too far? Even if there was a ringtail for everyone? |
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Oakhurst is 56 miles from Yosemite Valley either way you go Highway 41 or 140 and takes around hour and 15 minutes, I have been doing Airbnb for 9 years now in Oakhurst 100% if my customers are going to the park so with the lack of accommodation in the park most guest are willing to do the commute to the park so a hour and a half drive is not out of the question!!! |
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Obviously the best org type would be some sort of not-for-profit. Co-op perhaps? Or maybe Employee owned. Kinda lame to have one single dude own the means of production. |
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@eric - Sure, a co-op or non-profit would be ideal, but in my experience herding hundreds of cats to chip in and buy/manage a million dollar property is a full time job for someone. Setting up a board, paying taxes, maintenance, etc. tend to be prohibitively challenging in the long run. Hopefully, someone (me? @Ryan Kelly) can carve out a business that can provide options for climbers with all levels of means as well as make a life for themselves to feed their family. |
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What could be done to keep this as a "climber's" spot? Given the limited accommodations around the Valley and the high demand, I would expect this to quickly turn into camping for the general public, unless a certain grip strength or ape index was a prerequisite for entry. |
David Dentry wrote: ...and they say it’s Californians ruining Colorado. |
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If I was trying to climb in the valley 1.5 hours would be too far of a commute |
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It’s possible airbnb customers are by nature a different demographic. If you can afford an airbnb then you might also be less concerned about the gas money of those daily commutes, which would add up fast. If they aren’t climbers, they might not have agendas that require an early start either. Personally, 3hrs a day in the car when I’ve already invested in a climbing trip would quickly be both aggravating and expensive. I might consider it if A. I couldn’t figure out any other sleeping option, B. If there was a free daily shuttle into the park included, or C. Maybe for just arrival and departure days. But, not super likely. |
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Tioga Pass Resort is a great location for year around climbing & skiing . It could become a YARTS stop for Valley trips .It is outside the Park & close to Lee Vining & Hwy.395 .Lee Vining ice is just below the resort. It could include ski ,cycling , & climbing people for use & support. I think that climbers are going to face more restrictions in the Park. |
Gerald Adams wrote: But once again, it's over an hour to the Valley. Plus, it's basically inaccessible to a lot of people a big part of the year when there's still climbing in the Valley. |
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TPR is already being renovated by the owners. It is located in a zone with huge issues. Unless some gazillionaire decides to throw millions into a hobby, I trust a private owner will make decisions far better than a camp committee |
David Dentry wrote: We have property out that way and toyed with having our yurt up for rent for access to the park once we build a house. Drive is really not that bad. Nothing really out there but i could see after a long day not wanting to travel that far |
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The problem is very limited habitable/private land close to the valley. El Portal and Yosemite West are small and expensive. Besides those you are looking at minimum 40 minutes to the Valley. |
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Climbers want to be close for early start so closer the better. I get it, the East Buttress of Middle Cathedral takes some time my dudes. So likely locations are El Portal, Yosemite West, Big Oak Area (bit far but more land). I'm not asking you folks for a fundraising plan. I'm asking you what it would take to get you to stay at a Yosemite Climber's Ranch. There is a way to make it for climbers, don't get lost in the weeds. Services:
What would you pay nightly? Or if you were climbing in the Valley for two weeks? |
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I can stay for free <40 minutes from the valley so it would have to beat that. If it was <20 minutes away I'd pay the same rate as valley camping $26 a night per sight. Maybe every 4th night free or something. I'd camp in my vehicle, but I think you'd need tent sites for a lot of the people. If so then you'd need water/bathroom. You could have basically a high density parking lot, cheaper, and tent sites with some more space for more $. No other frills (shade/rain structures, etc.) needed. Climbers are frugal. Low cost is more important. Bonuses but not needed would be a community fire pit, a large water boiler in the morning so people could make coffee/tea/ramen easily. Reservations because I wouldn't want to show up and get turned away. |
Glowering wrote: Well, aren't you special!
+1. Or some kind of a discount if staying a week or longer, perhaps on a weekly basis. Essentially what you said.
Yes.
+1 as well. But those would sure be nice if it didn't impact the cost per night (much).
And of course, WiFi would be a huge plus. If nothing else, a cell signal booster. It would depend on the bandwidth needed.
Absolutely 1000%, BUT, walk-ins for Valley overflow would be a huge plus. It gets real tricky since it will experience full capacity at times, no matter if it has 25, 50, 100, or 400 sites. |
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i just did $117 at the white lodge with like an hour drive in, wasnt that bad, wasnt that goo. You could probably charge anything and it would get customers. |
