Old style Petzl Attache replacement

I think the old round stock attache locking carabiner was the best locker ever made for belaying/rappeling. For a while Petzl had the Attache and the Attache 3D. Then they got rid of the good one and just kept the 3D version. I am in need of a few replacements for my Old Attache biners but since Petzl doesn't make them any more. Can anyone tell me if the updated version works as well for raps, munters, belaying as the old one? If not who makes a carabiner the closely resembles the old gold Attache?

Eric

I also prefer the older design.

Look at the Metolius Element carabiner; it is very similar to the older Perzl design.

Sterling ropes makes a nice one. The Metolius one takes too long to lock the screwgate. 

Check out the rock exotica pirate. It’s very similar to the old attaché.  I think rock exotica used to make the attaché for Petzl.

CAMP Nimbus Lock
https://www.camp-usa.com/outdoor/product/carabiners/nimbus-lock/

Look at the Eldelrid bullet proof biner.

DrRockso wrote: Sterling ropes makes a nice one. 

The one close to the attache is called the falcon. It's similar in size and shape, but looks a bit more asymmetrical. 

The metolius element is a little smaller than the old attache, so not as good for munter hitches.

Honestly wasn’t a fan of the new attache at first. But it is just as good at everything as the old round stock version. It’s my go to locker nowadays. 

 I second the CAMP Nimbus!

You can find round attaches on mountain project if you stalk the for sale forum. 

I think I’ve got some old Attaches that are still in good shape. I used to work two doors down from the Boulder Sports Recycler and would always pick them up when they appeared. Shoot me a PM if you’re interested in trying to buy one/some from me.

For new stuff, I really like the two-stage Am’d autolocker. I have small hands and I can still open one about as quickly as a non-autolocker.

DMM Rhino HMS for truly round stock.
DMM Phantom HMS for lighter weight, nearly round stock.

https://dmmclimbing.com/Products/Locking-Carabiners

James B wrote: Honestly wasn’t a fan of the new attache at first. But it is just as good at everything as the old round stock version. It’s my go to locker nowadays. 

I am of the opinion that round stock biners are a bit better (smoother) as blocking biners in a guide-mode belay. That's the only reason I'm hanging onto the few I have.

Brandon R wrote: DMM Rhino HMS for truly round stock.
DMM Phantom HMS for lighter weight, nearly round stock.

https://dmmclimbing.com/Products/Locking-Carabiners

DMM Aero was my go-to attache alternative for a good while.

The Attaché is the second largest of the three, the gauge is the Mammut’s diameter.

Brocky wrote: The Attaché is the second largest of the three, the gauge is the Mammut’s diameter.

The mammut smart is a good hms locker, but I find the plastic anti crossload thingy more trouble than it's worth. I pulled mine off a few months ago and haven't missed it. 

Marc H wrote: I think I’ve got some old Attaches that are still in good shape. I used to work two doors down from the Boulder Sports Recycler and would always pick them up when they appeared. Shoot me a PM if you’re interested in trying to buy one/some from me.

For new stuff, I really like the two-stage Am’d autolocker. I have small hands and I can still open one about as quickly as a non-autolocker.

This is the Sm’D. Another vote for it being awesome if you are down for the two-stage locker. I have and regularly use a couple.

Camp Picto Lock. Also discontinued, but way easier to find than the older attaches. 

Sorry to revive this old thread...I also love the old Attache and am looking for a suitable replacement.

Gunkiemike wrote:

I am of the opinion that round stock biners are a bit better (smoother) as blocking biners in a guide-mode belay. That's the only reason I'm hanging onto the few I have.

The old Attache is especially great for belaying with something like the Kong Gi-Gi with two ropes running over the spine of the carabiner. A lot of the newer i-beam HMS carabiners meant for belaying have rounded edges at the wide end, but harder edges at the spine.

Still looking!

Ryan Nevius wrote:

Sorry to revive this old thread...I also love the old Attache and am looking for a suitable replacement.

The old Attache is especially great for belaying with something like the Kong Gi-Gi with two ropes running over the spine of the carabiner. A lot of the newer i-beam HMS carabiners meant for belaying have rounded edges at the wide end, but harder edges at the spine.

Still looking!

+1 for Metolius Element. Some people complain about how long it takes to screw shut. I've described it before as something that only matters when you're fake climbing at home next to your computer. Not unlike the lack of thumb loops on the Metolius UL Mastercams.

Plenty of room for a Munter... In my opinion, it's the overall shape of the carabiner that influences Munter compatibility, not the size of the carabiner. Being a round stock HMS-shape carabiner, I've found it readily compatible with a Munter.

Other options for a round stock spine HMS locker are:

• Kong HMS Napik
• Sterling Falcon
• Rock Exotica Pirate
• Trango Regulock HMS

The Sterling Falcon is very very similar.  The collar and gate feel smooth like the Attache and the shape is nearly the same, maybe better.