CAMP lift or ropeman 1 for TR soloing

I am wondering peoples opinion on using the wild country ropeman 1 for TR soloing. I have a microtraxion as my secondary device and was going to get a CAMP lift for primary because there are no teeth and will cause less rope damage.  Im wondering what people think on using the ropeman 1 instead of the camp lift. the only thing Ive heard is you need more rope tension with the ropeman 1. Any thoughts?

i use the lift and i like it. make sure its on top as its easy to disengage by pushing the camming piece from above. its never slipped on me using ropes 9.5 - 10mm 

Get a RollnLock. Runs smoother than either of the devices you mentioned.

+1 for roll n lock. I wonder how many of these threads have been made...

lethal weapon II wrote: +1 for roll n lock. I wonder how many of these threads have been made...

Dozens.

I’ve been using a Ropeman 1 backed up by a prussik. Grigri for a second backup on a separate line but slack is taken up when comfortable; so for the most part isn’t doing anything if I’m taking falls at my crux. Taken falls on it and it catches. Moves pretty smooth on a 9.8mm rope. Cost effective as I had everything other than the ropeman which can be found at times for $25-35.

Eugenel Espiritu wrote: I’ve been using a Ropeman 1 backed up by a prussik. Grigri for a second backup on a separate line but slack is taken up when comfortable; so for the most part isn’t doing anything if I’m taking falls at my crux. Taken falls on it and it catches. Moves pretty smooth on a 9.8mm rope. Cost effective as I had everything other than the ropeman which can be found at times for $25-35.

I just want to point out that while it works the rooeman 1 is actually only rated for 10-13mm ropes. I've never heard of one failing to lock (and haven't tried to find a report) but as a heads up.

Mike wrote:

I just want to point out that while it works the rooeman 1 is actually only rated for 10-13mm ropes. I've never heard of one failing to lock but as a heads up.

Yes, but I have seen people use it with skinnier ropes. 9.8mm is almost in this technical range and does work comfortably for me. A guy on YouTube demos using two ropeman 2, which has a larger range.

For what it is worth, here is my setup unloaded and loaded. As far as rope tension, I use my backpack with my shoes and whatever rope is left unused in the bag as the counterweight.

Eugenel Espiritu wrote: I’ve been using a Ropeman 1 backed up by a prussik. Grigri for a second backup on a separate line but slack is taken up when comfortable; so for the most part isn’t doing anything if I’m taking falls at my crux. Taken falls on it and it catches. Moves pretty smooth on a 9.8mm rope. Cost effective as I had everything other than the ropeman which can be found at times for $25-35.

Does it run pretty smooth or do you have to pull slack through the ropeman sometimes?

Eugenel Espiritu wrote:

Yes, but I have seen people use it with skinnier ropes. 9.8mm is almost in this technical range and does work comfortably for me. A guy on YouTube demos using two ropeman 2, which has a larger range.

For what it is worth, here is my setup unloaded and loaded. As far as rope tension, I use my backpack with my shoes and whatever rope is left unused in the bag as the counterweight.

What in the clusterfuck am i looking at. You’ve made this way over complicated. 

Buy a roll n lock. 

Alex Mlinar wrote:...primary because there are no teeth and will cause less rope damage...Any thoughts?

Yeah, teeth never damaged my ropes. AFAICT the worry of teeth damaging isn't normally based in evidence, but just a feeling people have.

I run a lift on top, micro trax on bottom. I like having the lift on top as it catches the rope between plates instead of teeth. I wouldn't consider using the lift as bottom ascender. As long as you weight the line you're climbing on, the rope should feed well (I just clove the rope to my pack at the bottom). I've never had any issues with my set up

Alex Mlinar wrote:
Does it run pretty smooth or do you have to pull slack through the ropeman sometimes?

With a pack with shoes and water, it moves pretty well without catching and lifting the counterweight.

Eugenel Espiritu wrote:

With a pack with shoes and water, it moves pretty well without catching and lifting the counterweight.

A good measure of how smoothly a TR solo system feeds is how much weight is needed to get a good feed. If you need a pack with shoes and water to get a good feed, that's actually not that great. A better system (such as the one Max shows a picture of above; RollnLock + Microtrax) will feed smoothly with 4 quickdraws as counterweight.

JCM wrote:

A good measure of how smoothly a TR solo system feeds is how much weight is needed to get a good feed. If you need a pack with shoes and water to get a good feed, that's actually not that great. A better system (such as the one Max shows a picture of above; RollnLock + Microtrax) will feed smoothly with 4 quickdraws as counterweight.

I could use less but the pack is what I’ve been using, not because the system needs the weight but because it what I have laying around. Ive seen a guy use a filled Nalgene bottle with his ropeman system. 

UPDATE: I just tested it, it took five quickdraws within the distance of a door frame as counterweight (11ounces per draw) for the ropeman to move. Expectation would be that it would catch less the further I go up an entire route since the rope would help with counterweight.