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Climbing terms

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jbak x · · tucson, az · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 4,833

All right Covid isolators... I have noticed many new climbers using terms incorrectly.  Like a tick that says "fell/hung must flash next time".  Huh ?  So here is a quiz.  Without googling, say what these terms mean.  

Onsight
Flash
Redpoint
Pinkpoint

extra credit:

Purplepoint
Bobpoint

If you are an old-timer, don't give it away too soon.  I wanna hear from true new-comers.

Matt Harahush · · Centennial, CO · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 0

onsight= no prior beta and sending on your first go
flash=sending on your first go but having knowledge of and studying the route
Redpoint=placing all the gear and sending in the same go
Pinkpoint= pre-placed gear

Never heard of the others

My Experience level= I've climbed outside around 20 times in a year and listen to the enormocast a lot.  How'd I do?!?!

jbak x · · tucson, az · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 4,833

very good. any quibbles out there ? I will add a term i just made up... the FUpoint. Done in the presence of a beta-spewing local. I mention this because of a good story behind it.

JoeS · · Tucson, AZ · Joined Jan 2008 · Points: 265

Bobpoint. Climbed easily through the crux and then fell on the last easy part due to hold breaking or some other silly thing. When ego doesn't require getting the redpoint, you just move on. Named for Bob Harrington who Bobpointed several hard climbs. Only legitimate to claim a Bobpoint when it's obvious you could easily get the redpoint on the next go.

Eric Carlos · · Soddy Daisy, TN · Joined Aug 2008 · Points: 141

What about bluepoint?

jbak x · · tucson, az · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 4,833

Tell me !!

Eric Carlos · · Soddy Daisy, TN · Joined Aug 2008 · Points: 141

A bluepoint is when you belay for a send. Us old folks need to take what we can get.

Pavel Burov · · Russia · Joined May 2013 · Points: 50

May I drop in one more question to the quiz?

Second go.

rob.calm · · Loveland, CO · Joined May 2002 · Points: 630

I'll toss this in

greenpoint

Seth Cohen · · Concord, NH · Joined Apr 2010 · Points: 70

In Europe (I think) they also use the term "first go send," but it doesn't mean flash or onsight. I'll add it to the quiz.

Seth Cohen · · Concord, NH · Joined Apr 2010 · Points: 70
rob.calm wrote: I'll toss this in

greenpoint

Is this when you send a sport route only on trad gear?

Seth Cohen · · Concord, NH · Joined Apr 2010 · Points: 70

I'll also add a term that I invented, that's not any kind of "point," but it accompanies many ascents, and I bet almost every climber has experiened it: PCPS. Any guesses?

rob.calm · · Loveland, CO · Joined May 2002 · Points: 630
Seth Cohen wrote:

Is this when you send a sport route only on trad gear?

Yes. It's when you don't use any of the bolts on a route and only use natural protection. Thus, you can only greenpoint a route that has been bolted. 

Bill Czajkowski · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Oct 2008 · Points: 21
Matt Harahush wrote: 
flash=sending on your first go but having knowledge of and studying the route

I don't think that studying a route (the climber looking at it, in person, not pictures) precludes an onsight. And that is not a statement that pictures preclude an onsight, in general.

Ben Molloy · · Keene, NY · Joined Mar 2018 · Points: 0

I’ll throw one in.... what’s a greypoint?

W K · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2018 · Points: 167

headpoint

Kellen Miller · · Fullerton, CA · Joined Jun 2017 · Points: 15

Yeah, the point might be how well you climb in particular. Me I get to flash just about everything. Since I use my long term short term memory loss to navigate  the routes I climb. For me it makes no difference. I you can climb it. And you made it up. Well there you go. You are at the top. I am not going to de-point you for taking a fall, pulling on gear, slipping, hanging. I don't care. Just don't fall on me. I guess? But yeah I do respect the On sight achievers of the world. BadASS. and Flashers. All the rest are just practicing.

Brian Sundermann · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2015 · Points: 0

Brownpoint...to go back and finish a climb on which you literally shit your britches during a previous attempt.

Keith Wood · · Elko, NV · Joined May 2019 · Points: 480

Pricepoint: Cost of the gear to needed to do the route

Franco McClimber · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2020 · Points: 0

Squiddy.  A meter and a half of pre cut 7 or 8mm cord for making ice thread anchors.  

Tie up the cord into a fat figure 8 and there ya go.  Precut, easy to whip out and tie with gloves on.  No fuss no muss. 

 Squiddies.  You heard it here first folks. 

jbak x · · tucson, az · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 4,833

Greenpoint... I may have heard that one before.

Quibble with Matt's def of Onsight.. It's okay to look the route over from the ground, but binocs and drones are too much.

Bobpoint... you know you can redpoint the route in the next try or 2 but you don't feel the need to prove it to anybody and you'd like to move on.

Purplepoint... you do the onsight or flash in spite of a crowd of people yelling the WRONG beta !

FUpoint... every time the beta spraying local yells something, you intentionally do something different.  Related to the STFUpoint AKA LeonaPoint.

Brownpoint seems to be: add sh*t joke here.

Headpoint... work up the nerve to do a scary route (or free solo).

Graypoint... don't know !

And I suppose the term "deja vu" is pretty easy.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Arizona & New Mexico
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