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Matthew Jaggers
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Apr 22, 2020
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Red River Gorge
· Joined Sep 2017
· Points: 695
Just got one, and curious if anyone has any feedback or concerns. Been using a Grigri+ for a while with great success while working at height, but thought I'd wear it out pretty quick if I kept using it for both climbing and developing. The one concern I have is that the side plate isnt 100% locked down like a Grigri. Is there any chance of that opening up accidentally, or am I over thinking it?
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PWZ
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Apr 22, 2020
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Feb 2016
· Points: 0
why wouldn't you just buy another grigri when you wore the first one out?
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Matthew Jaggers
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Apr 22, 2020
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Red River Gorge
· Joined Sep 2017
· Points: 695
PWZ wrote: why wouldn't you just buy another grigri when you wore the first one out?
Because I bought a safer, longer lasting, more appropriate device first, for about the same price as a non discounted grigri+. Thatd be about as good of a question as asking why someone would buy a Camp Goblin when Camp makes the Lift.
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PWZ
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Apr 22, 2020
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Feb 2016
· Points: 0
It's just amusing that you're working to reinvent the wheel, then asking if there's a problem with the new wheel.
I don't know why you'd buy the goblin or the lift.
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Amanda Smith
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Apr 22, 2020
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Fayetteville, WV
· Joined Jul 2010
· Points: 878
It would only open with user error.
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Ģnöfudør Ðrænk
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Apr 22, 2020
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In the vicinity of 43 deg l…
· Joined Nov 2017
· Points: 2
I've been wondering if it would feed better for lead soloing compared to a grigri.
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Matthew Jaggers
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Apr 22, 2020
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Red River Gorge
· Joined Sep 2017
· Points: 695
PWZ wrote: It's just amusing that you're working to reinvent the wheel, then asking if there's a problem with the new wheel.
I don't know why you'd buy the goblin or the lift. I'm sure you wouldnt. You've probably never lifted a finger or spent a penny to better your climbing community.
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PWZ
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Apr 22, 2020
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Feb 2016
· Points: 0
Ma Ja wrote: I'm sure you wouldnt. You've probably never lifted a finger or spent a penny to better your climbing community. looks like it's not only the Rig that you should worry about coming unhinged.
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Matthew Jaggers
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Apr 22, 2020
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Red River Gorge
· Joined Sep 2017
· Points: 695
SmithVentures wrote: It would only open with user error. That's what I assumed. Thanks for confirming. I couldnt picture a scenario where Petzl would make a dangerous loophole for a work device.
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Rob WardenSpaceLizard
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Apr 23, 2020
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las Vegans, the cosmic void
· Joined Dec 2011
· Points: 130
Ma Ja wrote: Because I bought a safer, longer lasting, more appropriate device first, for about the same price as a non discounted grigri+. Thatd be about as good of a question as asking why someone would buy a Camp Goblin when Camp makes the Lift. Having worked a lot in rope acess. The rig is not better than the grigri for you. The side plate is not a issue. But the narrow range of ropes accepted is.
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Matthew Jaggers
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Apr 23, 2020
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Red River Gorge
· Joined Sep 2017
· Points: 695
Rob WardenSpaceLizard wrote: Having worked a lot in rope acess. The rig is not better than the grigri for you. The side plate is not a issue. But the narrow range of ropes accepted is. 10.5 static rope will be fine. Not sure what you think I'll be doing with this, but I wont be lead belaying with it. Grigri for climbing, Rig for bolting, sorry if I wasnt more clear.
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Matthew Jaggers
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Apr 23, 2020
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Red River Gorge
· Joined Sep 2017
· Points: 695
Anyone think it's a bad idea to chop the handle down a bit to minimize it getting in the way of other components like adjustable lanyard, pas, etc.?
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Amanda Smith
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Apr 23, 2020
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Fayetteville, WV
· Joined Jul 2010
· Points: 878
Ma Ja wrote: Anyone think it's a bad idea to chop the handle down a bit to minimize it getting in the way of other components like adjustable lanyard, pas, etc.? I’d keep it in good shape in case you want to resell it.
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skinny legs
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Apr 23, 2020
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Beast Coast
· Joined Nov 2017
· Points: 87
Ma Ja wrote: Anyone think it's a bad idea to chop the handle down a bit to minimize it getting in the way of other components like adjustable lanyard, pas, etc.? They are bombproof. Just don't fuck with it. I have never had issues getting hung up on that handle even with multiple tethers, etrier, drill, and other paraphernalia.
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Matthew Jaggers
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Apr 23, 2020
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Red River Gorge
· Joined Sep 2017
· Points: 695
SmithVentures wrote:
I’d keep it in good shape in case you want to resell it. Great point. SkinnyLegs wrote: They are bombproof. Just don't fuck with it. I have never had issues getting hung up on that handle even with multiple tethers, etrier, drill, and other paraphernalia. Thanks man, that's all I needed to hear.
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Doctor Drake
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Apr 23, 2020
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined May 2018
· Points: 126
I use a rig all the time and it’s freaking awesome. Used to use a grigri as well for ropework and work positioning, but the rig beats it hands down. No worries about it coming off. My favorite bit is that because the locking mechanism is more graduated than that of the grigri, you can more easily choose the rate and which you lower yourself.
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Glowering
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Apr 23, 2020
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Oct 2011
· Points: 16
You just need the best pretzel rig.
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Matthew Jaggers
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Apr 28, 2020
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Red River Gorge
· Joined Sep 2017
· Points: 695
skinny legs wrote: They are bombproof. Just don't fuck with it. I have never had issues getting hung up on that handle even with multiple tethers, etrier, drill, and other paraphernalia. I'm glad I didnt mess with the handle. This device is absolutely perfect in every respect. The way the handle is designed, it rotates with a large circular cap on the left side, which bulges out slightly. This bulge keeps any personal anchors that are in direct, and forced tight to the handle side of the Rig, to not effect the handle rotation at all. I've had a few scenarios where going in direct pulls my personal into the handle of the Grigri, and it forces you to have to manipulate the cord before you can pull slack through. With the Rig, even with the larger handle, there was no interference with anything at all, and I attribute that to the design of that side piece connected to the handle. Great work Petzl! Also, the Rig is absolutely killing the Grigri on ascents. The way the cam rotates out of the way as you pull in slack means it creates a lot less friction. Totally worth the upgrade if you are working on and jugging lines a lot. 10/10
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