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Best Boulder Canyon guidebook?

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Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 984

I'm thinking about finally updating my BoCan guidebook and since I can't leaf through the options at Rock and Resole anymore, I need some advice.
Will give me some ideas for the future and I want to pick up some resoles at their pick up window anyway, so a good time to buy and support RnR.

D'Antonio v3 or Haas?

I'm primarily interested in new routes and new areas.
I can find my way around pretty well, so don't particularly care if the crag directions are lousy.

Thanks in advance!

Matt B · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2017 · Points: 472

I would vote for the new Haas / Weidner guide. My buddy has it, and it has so many new areas and routes. They climbed almost every route in the canyon, and stories of getting lost a bunch to find some remote chosspiles are pretty humorous.

Buck Rio · · MN · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 16

Wait for that Levin character to come out with a guidebook...he knows how to make a guidebook. 

reboot · · . · Joined Jul 2006 · Points: 125

It's all about Bob D's v2 man. That thing is classic!!

Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 984
reboot wrote: It's all about Bob D's v2 man. That thing is classic!!

With all due respect to Bob, BoCan v2 is the only guidebook with more errors in the second edition than there were in the first.

v1 all the way!!!

Jon W · · Colorado · Joined Jun 2010 · Points: 75

Wiedner/Hass is the best by far. I have it.  Jason, Chris and others climbed almost every route in their book. It give history as well

I think Bob D phoned his in. 

Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,692
Mark E Dixon wrote: D'Antonio v3 or Haas?
I'm primarily interested in new routes and new areas.

Well, The Haas book has about 700 more routes than the other one, for starters.
It's also more accurate than any of the other books in my experience.

D'Antonio book: " This book gives you all the beta you need for 1800+ routes and variations, with improved route photos, extensive new mapping, and the inspiring photography you expect from Wolverine guides. "

Haas Book: "This New Boulder Canyon guide was written by Jason Haas and Chris Weidner who climbed most of nearly 2,500 routes in the canyon, with an absurd commitment to first hand knowledge."

Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 984

Bought the Haas guide.
Very nicely done, but not as many new crags as I expected. Seems pretty thorough. 
Happy to give some business to Rock and Resole!

Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 984

Thanks, but I’d rather you came back and used it yourself :-)

JR climber · · Boulder, CO · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 0
JR climber · · Boulder, CO · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 0

Still googling it... having a hell of a time trying to figure out where to buy this book.

PRRose · · Boulder · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 0
Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 984

Rock and Resole probably has them both.
I just bought the Haas guide there last week.
They have a take out window now, plus still doing mail orderI believe.

The Haas guide is good.
Haven't had much chance to use it, naturally.
It's got an all white cover.
Doesn't seem very robust, but still sturdier than Mark Rolofson's topo guides.
Those were the best, but sadly out of date now.

There's fewer new areas than I hoped, and most of the new crags look super scruffy.
But maybe not too crowded :-)

reboot · · . · Joined Jul 2006 · Points: 125
Mark E Dixon wrote:Doesn't seem very robust, but still sturdier than Mark Rolofson's topo guides.
Those were the best, but sadly out of date now.

There's fewer new areas than I hoped, and most of the new crags look super scruffy.
But maybe not too crowded :-)

You mean Richard Rossiter? If so, those hand-drawn topo's are classic. There are software that can help you convert images to line drawings (you'll still need to add symbols and which side a crack is facing), which I believe is how Bernard Gillett does his. I personally find color photos to be vastly inferior to high-contrast BW topos for a lot of areas.

Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 984

No, I mean Mark’s ‘Sport and Adventure’ guides.

Rossiter’s were great too, but more out of date for the sport routes and not as detailed wrt beta.

reboot · · . · Joined Jul 2006 · Points: 125
Mark E Dixon wrote: No, I mean Mark’s ‘Sport and Adventure’ guides.

Rossiter’s were great too, but more out of date for the sport routes and not as detailed wrt beta.

Ah. Were they like his CCC guides? If so, they were "classic" in a slightly different sense :)

PRRose · · Boulder · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 0
reboot wrote:

You mean Richard Rossiter? If so, those hand-drawn topo's are classic. There are software that can help you convert images to line drawings (you'll still need to add symbols and which side a crack is facing), which I believe is how Bernard Gillett does his. I personally find color photos to be vastly inferior to high-contrast BW topos for a lot of areas.

No, Mark had two topo guidebooks. Vol. I covered to the Falls and Dream Canyon. It went through at least 5 editions, with latest probably being 2006. Vol. II covered west of the Falls. Latest edition was probably the 2005 revision. Obviously, they are not up-to-date but I like the topos when I'm climbing at a cliff that made it into Mark's guides.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Colorado
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