journey mattress

Thanks for the tip. Looks like a one-product company. Had never heard of them before. Just wrote them, suggesting they offer a short, but wide version.

I have never had great luck with these light inflatable type pads. I use a Paco pad in my truck, and a regular thermarest when backpacking. I had a Klymit that leaked after four nights in a basecamp setting, I would not trust my life to an inflatable pad in any sort of alpine environment.

John White wrote:

Has anyone used this?  I am having trouble finding any in depth reviews or any reviews really.  I don’t 100% trust the ones on their site.  null

Might be an ok cheap pad. See below for a rambling opinion.

The biggest thing that would turn me off of it is the lack of an R value/any insulation info. It just says “no heat loss” which is just a false statement.

Also, as a side sleeper these ultra thin pads are a nightmare.

I do really like the integral pillow idea though.

Overall take: it’s probably a mass produced import. That being said it might be great! But usually even great cheap imports are plagued by quality issues

To back up the import theory: amazon.com/ZOOOBELIVES-Ultr…

FrankPS wrote:Just wrote them, suggesting they offer a short, but wide version.

Every once in a while you crack me up Frank.

Sawyer W wrote: 
The biggest thing that would turn me off of it is the lack of an R value/any insulation info. It just says “no heat loss” which is just a false statement.

According to the website, the R value is 4.2.

FrankPS wrote:

According to the website, the R value is 4.2.

Ah, my refrigerator blindness must have been in full effect. Good call.

B Newt Riverman wrote: I have never had great luck with these light inflatable type pads. I use a Paco pad in my truck, and a regular thermarest when backpacking. I had a Klymit that leaked after four nights in a basecamp setting, I would not trust my life to an inflatable pad in any sort of alpine environment.

I have had the opposite in that my klymit pad probably has at least 200 nights on it. I think for how cheap you can get them they make awesome pads if you have good luck like me I guess.

Looks like a poor design in my opinion. All those areas in between the raised "bubbles" will leak heat. Klymit pads do this too, it's why they're never as warm as their R value suggests compared to eg Thermarest. Think of a box baffled VS sewn thru down jacket. Klymit always claimed your sleeping bag lofted and filled in the gaps but that's wishful thinking. 

FrankPS wrote: Thanks for the tip. Looks like a one-product company. Had never heard of them before. Just wrote them, suggesting they offer a short, but wide version.

Have you still not resealed your NeoAirs? :-) Just attack the seam with some Thermarest adhesive if you don't want to go near it with an iron again. 

jdejace wrote:

Have you still not resealed your NeoAirs? :-) Just attack the seam with some Thermarest adhesive if you don't want to go near it with an iron again. 

Ha! Thanks for remembering. Both the Neolite and the Uberlite were successfully resealed- with the iron! Still, I like seeing new products. I'm a certfied gear hoarder.

FYI I got this mattress (the journey hugger) and tried it, looking for a lighter backpacking option than my current pad I've had for 8 years. It was comfortable, smaller, and lighter as I expected. Worked great for about 5 uses then started leaking air but I was unable to find where the leak was coming from. Contacted the company, the only contact info they provide is an email, which they say "they respond within 48 hours". I have emailed them 4-5 times in the past 1-2 months and have yet to get a reply. I tried to leave a review but the only place I can really see to do that is on their website and they clearly screen out the bad reviews as they did not post mine or even respond to me regarding my negative experience. This makes the button for "Happy customers" (the link to go read the reviews on their website) particularly hilarious because they are clearly being honest: they only are posting their happy customers. Anyways, they either have shit customer service or the whole thing is a scam. DO NOT BUY and pass this along. If you have any other ideas of where I can get the word out please let me know.