Wide Mountaineering Boots

 I have tried to find mountaineering boots to fit with these bricks (see photo) but have had no success. My street shoe size is a size 13, and my Merrell Moab 2 Mid hiking boot size is a 13 wide, as I wear hiking socks over liner socks. I have tried La Sportiva, Scarpa, Salewa, Lowa, Asolo, and Schnee's in both 47 and 48 euro sizes, and nothing has worked due to width issues and my "pinky" toes being squished. I would ideally want a boot that is hybrid crampon compatible, as I am not doing extreme mountaineering like Everest. Any suggestions would be great.

Ditch the liner sock and sock layering entirely.  No need for a thick sock, either.  This should help some.

Are you looking for a 3 season boot, or something a little warmer?  Have you tried the new Phantom Tech?

Mammut Boots!

I went to a boot fitter in Seattle and they got my feet to feel comfortable in Nepal Evos with some boot shaping and a custom insole.
I have 8.5EEE feet (more square than yours!) and the evos feel great after the work.
I highly recommend doing that and just paying for a good fitting. 

Try the Hanwag Friction II GTX, it's a hybrid compatible C/D boot. Hikes well, stiff enough and very well insulated. My feet are similar to yours and they fit me well, although I don't wear multiple socks. 

Where abouts are you? I have some old 13 salomon super mountain nines (like photo lil heavy but good shape) you could try for the cost of shipping. They climb ice great. I'm in pa. If you're interested you could give me some rough foot measurements and I can check it against mine to see if it's worth it. Just a thought-

Steven Lee wrote: I went to a boot fitter in Seattle and they got my feet to feel comfortable in Nepal Evos with some boot shaping and a custom insole.
I have 8.5EEE feet (more square than yours!) and the evos feel great after the work.
I highly recommend doing that and just paying for a good fitting. 

Hi Steven, can you tell me the boot fitter you went to please? Thanks Cheryl 

Ascent outdoors in Seattle did a pretty good job with my G2s

New version of Mt. Blanc Pro had a roomy toe box

The mammut knit boots whatever they are called seem to conform to whatever feet you put in them.

I have a wide foot too (13 in normal shoes, 11.5 4E in anything that sells widths, and a punched out 29.5 ski boot). I had good luck with the Orange/Black Phantom Guides (probably 10+ years old at this point) and then also found my way into a used pair of the Arcteryx Acrux AR ( outdoorgearlab.com/reviews/…) that fit even better. I think both pairs are 47. I ended up using my ski boot punch to do a targeted stretch/punch of the arcteryx around the big knuckle of the big toe, I found it helped to get the mm of space to make the boots more comfortable (but they also seemed to stretch back into shape after a little while).

Agree with the advice above, wearing a thin sock (I use a smartwool ultra-light ski sock) frees up a decent amount of space for us. I've also found a good set of insoles with arch support makes my feet "smaller" (both in length and width) due to my arch getting lifted, but I have very flat feet.

Cheryl Wentworth wrote:

Hi Steven, can you tell me the boot fitter you went to please? Thanks Cheryl 

My memory betrayed me - it was actually “mountain shop” in Portland not Seattle 

Jimmy Strange wrote:

Garmont specializes in high volume boots. 

A lesson I learned the hard way, wide and high volume are two unrelated attributes. Wide vs narrow is the width of the feet, high/low volume is mostly about height (high or low arch)

Scarpa is usually wider than most, but I have been climbing in La Sportiva Nepal Evo GTX. I have these wooden boot-stretchers that work well, but it takes time. You have to leave them in your shoes or boots for weeks, but they do have optional bumps to push out any hot spots.

I have size 13 street and 14 (48EU) usually mountaineering boots. I've found between LS, Scarpa, and a few others that the best fitting boot I've had (for doubles, anyways) are the koflach arctis expes with a intuition logan liner. The next best (and what I currently have) are the Boreal double boot (the one without the integrated gaiter), and I kept my Logan liners and have them in there. They are plenty wide, have great rocker (better than any double boot I've had) and are super lightweight with the intuition liners - comparable to a LS G2 Evo and more durable. I've been a fan so far.

Honestly though - the Koflach Arctis Expes - as old school as that is, were my favorite boot - especially with Intuitions in there. Tough to beat a plastic in slogging wet snow.

I feel ya! Its a hard time with big feet/ weird feet as a climber.

My experience with size 14/15 us and 49-50 eu feet:

I wear g2 sms size 50 for most things and they are great but suck to have clipped onto the harness for climbing in rock shoes and to hike in. I try to climb in my 31 mondo ski boots la spo skorpius (tight fit and punched). I have lowa green single boots in a 14 and they are a bit too small for me (toe bang ow). 

I would try scarpa boots as they tend to be a bit wider than la spo. But hard to find 48 or 49 to try on. But i fit on their 48s ok. Anything with 'tech'in the name is a bit tighter but try their single ribelle boots which fit me ok in a 48. Or the charmoz tech/ charmoz (up to sz 50). Good luck! 

These are "super wide."

https://lathropandsons.com/collections/l-s-brand-boots/products/l-s-mountain-hunter%E2%84%A2-super-wide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxs0bLtZ1m8

These are custom made.  

https://www.johncaldenboots.com/Custom-Made-Boots.php

Recently tried on an unmodified pair of Scarpa Phantom Tech 1st Gen in size 42.5 in hopes of upgrading my LS Nepal Evos. Good on volume but pretty tight on my small toe. My punched out LS Nepal Evos (also 42.5) are much more comfortable. (street shoe size is 8 to 8.5 in EEE)

Does anyone have experience stretching/punching out Phantom Techs? Not so convinced they would stretch given their synthetic nature.

I also have wide feet. Scarpa rock shoes work for me but the one time I tried to get into the Phantom was a disaster. Sportiva is a torture device. So far Asolo has been really good to me.

I tried on Salewa Vultures (black and green) and they were wide. I wore a half size smaller than my street size.