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Climbing skin glue compatibility

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wisam · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2012 · Points: 60

I have a set of dynafit skins (made by pomica I think) that need to be reglued.  The pomica brand of glue is super spendy ($30 a tube and they recommend two tubes based on my skis being 112 underfoot and 130 at the tip)

From what I understand you aren't supposed to mix glue types based on different solvents however If I remove all the old glue and do a complete re glue would I be able to use any glue I want or would the incompatibility be a big enough issue that even a small bit of the previous glue remaining would be an issue?

Julian Smith · · Colorado Springs, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 2,140

I guess I haven't been paying close enough attention. I have used a variety of skins, and I always apply just a little of the BD Gold Label stuff, plop some parchment paper on top, run it over with the iron a few times, and call it good. Then I hang the skins out to dry, so to speak, for a day or so, and they seem to be good to go. Hope this helps. Cheers.

FosterK · · Edmonton, AB · Joined Nov 2012 · Points: 67
wisam wrote: From what I understand you aren't supposed to mix glue types based on different solvents however If I remove all the old glue and do a complete re glue would I be able to use any glue I want or would the incompatibility be a big enough issue that even a small bit of the previous glue remaining would be an issue?
If you strip the entire skin, you'll have no issues using whatever glue you want. Getting a skin free of glue is not difficult.
Forthright · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 110

You're good, just throw BD gold label on there as needed. Also wall to wall carpet at the tips for powder boards is a waste of weight. Trim that shit.

wisam · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2012 · Points: 60

Is there any benefit to the pomica glue over the BD that justifies like 2X the price?  I havent used BD glue before but I havent heard any complaints.

The Morse-Bradys · · Lander, WY · Joined Aug 2012 · Points: 4,707

I have a set of those Dynafit Skins the glue was never amazing even right out of the box.  A few years down the road it really lost its stick.  I re glued with BD Gold from a tube, I didn’t even strip the old glue off and it’s better than the original glue ever was.  This was a few years ago still no issues with them.
 A side note I’m fairly meticulous about keeping dirt, fur, debris or wax from getting on my skins so they were quite clean to start with and 1 tube covered both skins perfectly.

Nick Drake · · Kent, WA · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 651
wisam wrote: Is there any benefit to the pomica glue over the BD that justifies like 2X the price?  I havent used BD glue before but I havent heard any complaints.

I've had BD glue go 4-5 seasons just fine and it peels apart without horrible difficulty (I fold skins glue to glue in thirds). I can't see spending that much more for pomicas glue, not that there is anything wrong with it either. 

Mack Johnson · · Silverdale, WA · Joined Sep 2016 · Points: 1,061

I have reglued G3 skins with BD glue, no problem; it actually improved the stick of the Alpinist Ultralight skins, which was mediocre when I got them.

Terry E · · San Francisco, CA · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 43

I’ve been using Pomoca skins for three years now, and will never go back to BD (or G3). I think both the glue and skins are superior. The skins never come off and the glue will stick even if I drop the sticky surface in the snow. Apply a bit of friction and it will stay on, whereas in the past with BD I’ve had to call it a day. I reglued a couple pairs of Pomoca this summer and was able to get the glue from Snowinn. One can was plenty for two pairs (liberal application, long wide skins), but I bought three cans for the future. Shipping was eight dollars.

https://www.snowinn.com/ski-store/pomoca-can-of-glue-with-brush-150gr/48082/p

I don’t think you will have any problems, if you apply a different brand of glue. Just remove as much as possible, using a heat gun and metal scrapers. Or an iron and lots of brown paper.

Forthright · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 110
wisam wrote: Is there any benefit to the pomica glue over the BD that justifies like 2X the price?  I havent used BD glue before but I havent heard any complaints.

Nah, kinda the gold standard for a reason

Dankasaurus · · Lyons, CO · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 85

Glue is hurtful and offensive to my feelings.  Please, don't use glue. Please buy new skins.  Seriously.  Regluing skins is like swapping the screen on your iphone.  It's a bloody waste.  These things are not designed to be reglued.  They are designed to be returned for store credit after you mis-use them.  

Trump 2020!!  Don't reglue!!

Terry E · · San Francisco, CA · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 43
Forthright wrote:

Nah, kinda the gold standard for a reason

BD, the Kmart of ski touring gear, when it comes to their primitive “skin trimming tool”. They need to hire industrial designers.

Forthright · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 110
Terry E wrote:

BD, the Kmart of ski touring gear, when it comes to their primitive “skin trimming tool”. They need to hire industrial designers.

1. BD has some real good talent on the design side so I'd watch your mouth (no I don't work for them)

2. You're confusing design work and a cost cutting measure (for the consumer) that design most likely had no roll in.

People act like its exponentially harder to cut skins with the mail opener that BD gives you. It's not that much harder nor does it take that much longer (at most a few minutes). Yeah the G3 one is nice that you don't have to shift around your skins and the offset is built in. But most consumers aren't cutting more than 1 set of skins. 
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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