Help with boot selection, PLEASE
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I'm looking for a cold weather boot for long distance snowshoeing hunts in extreme temps and very deep snow. I live in Michigan's Upper Peninsula and plan on doing long snowshoe tracking hunts that will last several days. Snow is measured in feet and temps can get as low as -20F. I need something lightweight that will keep my feet dry and warm given that I will be moving several miles at a time followed by being stationary for 1-2 hours. |
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For -20F, you need a double like the Scarpa Phantom 6000. But mountaineering boots are very stiff and suck to hike in so I am not sure they would work well for long distance tracking. |
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For hiking in Michigan I would consider mukluks or something similar. You don't need heavy mountain boots. They'll be painful for what you're trying to do. |
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Thanks for the feedback! You guys confirmed my fears, thanks again.... |
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Schnees Hunter Pac boots. I've worn them down to -30 active, and they're great. Even good to -10 if you're sitting still. As warm as most double boots, but much more flexible if you're going to be hiking in them for a long time. |
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Yeah, I'd 86 mountaineering boots for hunting/hiking purposes. Just because they're "mountaineering boots" doesn't necessarily mean they're the warmest options, unless you choose a 6000M or above double boot. I guarantee you'll regret dropping $1K on 8000M doubles for use in the woods. Most, if not all the boots you listed are designed for technical climbing where crampon compatibility, sole rigidity (stiffness) and lastly warmth, in some cases, are priority. |
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Ultimately I'm looking for something that is light weight, feels solid and sure footed and warm. I hate bulky footwear! The pac boots look comfy but heavy and not something I want to break trail / brush in for miles. I'm familiar with Danner, Lowa and Zamberlan but not Crispi, I'll check them out. |
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Check out Kuiu - SCARPA makes some boots for them, built in gaiter and such |
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Creds: 50 years winter climbing, altitude up to 20,000+ (Denali), 35 years professional boot/shoe fitter. Suggest mukluk type, mountaineering boot a lot stiffer than what you need. Fit is CRiTICAL, for warmth your fit should be comfortable to a little loose/sloppy, with your heaviest sock combo (ideal: synthetic liner sock, vbl sock, heavy wool/synthetic blend). I cannot emphasize too much-snug/tight is COLD. Suggest lightest sorel/pac boots you can find-true mukluc would be ideal (crappy support. but great warmth). Good luck. |
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Fine tune how you crank your snowshoe straps. Too tight. and you will have cold toes/feet. Strap as loose as will let you have decent control. |
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Based on what you are telling us, I would approach this completely differently than what others have already mentioned: |
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I may be late to this, but here’s my two cents. Jeremy has some good info above and I don’t disagree, although I typically skip the vapor barrier. I hike, hunt, or ski and climb (or sometimes all 4 at once) in Northern Minnesota just outside and inside the boundary waters throughout the winter.When hunting it’s long walks in rough terrain filled by sitting quietly. There’s no one boot that does it all. I picked the best most comfortable (emphasis on waterproof and warmth) hiking boot, and the use overbooties when stationary. Any boot warm enough to sit for an hour or two is gonna suck for hiking.
I have two “go to” boots that can comfortably hike 10 + miles and keep you warm and dry. The Meindl’s on the left (more hiking hunting focused) were from Cabela’s and the Lowa’s (Silberhorn GTX mountaineering boot) can order anywhere. I have most of the other boots listed, but these are the two specifically chosen for what I think the exact application of what you are looking for....can’t remember where I got those overbooties. Warm AF. It was a long time ago in the Army for long range recon in the alps. Essentially the same application... |
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Thanks again for the feedback everyone. Jeremy and Mark, your advice was more in line with what I'm looking for. I'm still deciding on a boot but the idea of a vapor barrier and an overboot while stationary are both suggestions I'd not considered. |
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Get a pair of Mickey Mouse boots. |
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Mike you are kidding yourself if you think you can get lightweight, and non bulky footwear for those conditions. But you might want to experiment with what a lot of the top Alpinist are starting to do of utilizing heated socks to get away with a lighter boot. But your several days need of warmth might be hard depending on your weather/ sun. Not like when you can choose your summit day and just burn a battery for that. |
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Mike Serman wrote: Thanks again for the feedback everyone. Jeremy and Mark, your advice was more in line with what I'm looking for. I'm still deciding on a boot but the idea of a vapor barrier and an overboot while stationary are both suggestions I'd not considered. Also, you should add in anti-perspirant to your footwear system. This is an old mountaineering trick. Best to apply generously for a few days before your trip. Do this at night. Give another treatment in the morning before you head out and each night while on your trip. I like to coat the tops and bottoms of my feet up to my ankles, the entire foot. Gel type works best. I've used Degree with great results. |
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Bunny boots aren’t a horrible option and could be considered if your sitting significantly outweighs your movement, or you are manning a foxhole, but there’s a reason anyone who needed to bust brush for extended periods in rough terrain used a different solution. |