best ice climbing pants for short stocky people

I have two pairs of pants now...Mammut Champ and some other Mammut soft shell - can't remember the name now.

I am 5'6" at best - like a 32-33" waist with pretty thick legs and a short inseam - like 29".

Anyone have any recommendations on best fitting ice climbing pants?  What I have now works ok...but the are really too long and baggy in all the wrong areas.

 I haven't purchased pants for ice in forever. I can tell you that I've seen people wear gaiters so they don't trip or tear their pants with their crampons. Gaiters will also make that lightweight boot warmer.

When you are shopping online, look at that company's size chart. It will tell you the inseam measurement.

thanks for the input folks.  Yeah I know about inseam sizing - its just the shortest I can typically find are 30" and very often it comes with a smaller waist too.  Not always, but often.  I think it will be hard to find 28 or 29" inseam soft shells, but it may be possible.

As far as gaiters go I have used them but stopped when I started climbing in my G2SM's as it was a bit overkill and clunky - but you are right - it definitely brings in the loose stuff on the pants and gets them more slim and less likely to get caught on crampons.  

Arcteryx do a short option on some of their trousers, worth a look at. 

Montane, Mountain Equipment and Kuhl make short inseams.

Motane and Mountain Equipment look promising in their waist to leg ratio.  I love Arcteryx but all of their short inseam has a proportionally small waist too - not a fit for my "dimensions" :)

Honestly, you might want to check out women's sizes.

Ruth23 wrote: Honestly, you might want to check out women's sizes.

I was actually told this last season...and I think I forgot - I certainly will.  :)

https://www.outdoorresearch.com/us/mens-ferrosi-shorts-10-inch-269179?cat=57,12,4

In truth, spending $25 at a tailor has been worth it every time I've bought a pair of soft-shell pants. Find something that fits the waist well and has the features you want and have them custom fitted. A good shop can maintain things like instep patches and boot cords

Patagucci Simul Alpine Pant

I rock these but height doesn't matter they are 3/4 length
​https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/117658001/winter-is-comingwhat-leggings-do-you-wear?page=3​​​

Might try mountain hardware.  They tend to accommodate my thicker legs better than other brands.  

I am 30 inseam, 33 waist and arcteryx gamma AR in Medium/Short works great for me https://www.arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/gamma-ar-pant

Also Mountain Equipment (British company not the Canadian coop) make their pants in short as well - unfortunately, short usually means 30 in seam.... 

Alex Fedorov wrote: I am 30 inseam, 33 waist and arcteryx gamma AR in Medium/Short works great for me https://www.arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/gamma-ar-pant

Also Mountain Equipment (British company not the Canadian coop) make their pants in short as well - unfortunately, short usually means 30 in seam....

thanks and thanks to some folks who recommend Arcteryx - they do have shorter sizing - I think I misunderstood their various size schemes.  Mountain Equipment and Montane look really good as well...but in the US its hard to find all the size variants and shipping from UK can be pricey it seems.  But I'll keep looking - thanks again.

neils wrote:

thanks and thanks to some folks who recommend Arcteryx - they do have shorter sizing - I think I misunderstood their various size schemes.  Mountain Equipment and Montane look really good as well...but in the US its hard to find all the size variants and shipping from UK can be pricey it seems.  But I'll keep looking - thanks again.

Rock and ice in New Paltz used to carry MEC pants last winter/spring - so maybe give them a call... Their website is not always updates i feel ,,,

I have the same problem, in women's pants. I solved it for one pair of Patagonia soft shells a couple of years ago. I cut the legs off a little bit below the knee, removed about a 4" strip of fabric from the top of each lower leg piece, and sewed the legs back together, being very careful to do the same kind of seam on the circumference and to match the lengthwise seams. Don't try this at home unless you have decent sewing skills--its a high risk fix!

MEC is not Mountain Equipment. Like Rei/ems you can only get mec gear at an mec. Anyway, have you thought about custom pants? I think Beyond Fleece and NW Alpine do custom work. 

I actually got these https://www.arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/gamma-ar-pant in a large short.  The medium short was too tight on my legs but the large is good - they are much more trim than my Mammut's in the same size - less baggy, a little shorter, smaller waist.  Not custom but better than what I had.

Just learn how to sew, shortening pants is the easiest thing you could do with a sewing machine and a pair of scissors. I don’t even understand why they make short length pants, yet so many companies won’t make long (36”) inseams.

For A Great Time wrote: Just learn how to sew, shortening pants is the easiest thing you could do with a sewing machine and a pair of scissors. I don’t even understand why they make short length pants, yet so many companies won’t make long (36”) inseams.

because a lot of the technical pants can not be simply shortened... Not only the bottom has things like crampon patches, lace hooks and draw strings but the panel design around the knee area often needs to be at the right height...