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Any Big Wall climbers for hire?

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Rock Monkey · · Bonita · Joined Jun 2019 · Points: 15

Greetings,

I want to do a big wall and want to glean all I can from an experienced big wall climber before I venture into the wilds on my own.
Anybody?

Yosemite preferably.

Clint Cummins · · Palo Alto, CA · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 1,738

Yosemite Mountaineering School and Guide Service
Guided Climbs Rates
Grade V 3 days $1,830
Half Dome 5 days $4,784
El Capitan 6 days $6,032
https://www.travelyosemite.com/things-to-do/rock-climbing/​​​

M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911
Clint Cummins wrote: Yosemite Mountaineering School and Guide Service
Guided Climbs Rates
Grade V 3 days $1,830
Half Dome 5 days $4,784
El Capitan 6 days $6,032
https://www.travelyosemite.com/things-to-do/rock-climbing/

Interesting it goes way up for more days on wall...its as if it becomes burdensome after 2 nights, almost as if the guide is a waiter/concierge

Rock Monkey · · Bonita · Joined Jun 2019 · Points: 15
Clint Cummins wrote: Yosemite Mountaineering School and Guide Service
Guided Climbs Rates
Grade V 3 days $1,830
Half Dome 5 days $4,784
El Capitan 6 days $6,032
https://www.travelyosemite.com/things-to-do/rock-climbing/

I want a dirtbag not a service. I google'd that stuff a year ago. Thanks though. 

¿eres una bolsa de basura?

Dustin Stotser · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2014 · Points: 371
Rock Monkey wrote:

I want a dirtbag not a service. I google'd that stuff a year ago. Thanks though.

You will need to phrase your question differently.  

Ryan Sheridan · · Yosemite Village, CA · Joined May 2014 · Points: 35

What you are asking for is illegal , maybe show up to the valley and meet some partners. They charge pirate guides to the fullest extent of the law here. Sucks but Aramark has a monopoly

Ty Harlacker · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 231

There's a monopoly on guiding in the park. Only one place has the permit, their prices are listed above. Like others are alluding; you need to ask for an experienced 'partner' or 'mentor'. The message board in Camp 4 is probably your best bet. Maybe go on YouTube and watch some SuperTopo videos so you know what you're getting into(and practice it lots).

Rock Monkey · · Bonita · Joined Jun 2019 · Points: 15
Ryan Sheridan wrote: What you are asking for is illegal , maybe show up to the valley and meet some partners. They charge pirate guides to the fullest extent of the law here. Sucks but Aramark has a monopoly

Well that's a horse of a different color. I certainly do not want to do something illegal.

So you're saying that if somebody wants to climb with me and share their big wall knowledge, I cannot compensate them for their time in terms of money?
This seems odd to me. Can I buy them a beer for their time? Or dinner? Is that illegal too?

Also, is their a handy link to the illegal nature of this?

Thanks...

I suppose I can offer to pay a premium price for the right person's carabiner. Is that legal?
Ty Harlacker · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 231

It's not like rangers are hiding in the bushes waiting for someone to mention 'guiding'. Just don't call it that, there's no law against asking for 'experienced partners'. You'll be fine, just show up to Camp 4. Talk to the people in your site, ask them if they know anyone looking for a partner. Put a note on the message board too, if you're lucky, someone might even approach you.

Fail Falling · · @failfalling - Oakland, Ca · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 916
Rock Monkey wrote:

Well that's a horse of a different color. I certainly do not want to do something illegal.

So you're saying that if somebody wants to climb with me and share their big wall knowledge, I cannot compensate them for their time in terms of money?
This seems odd to me. Can I buy them a beer for their time? Or dinner? Is that illegal too?

Also, is their a handy link to the illegal nature of this?

Thanks...

I suppose I can offer to pay a premium price for the right person's carabiner. Is that legal?

The current language is "donation" but the legalese is more than just specific words and also takes into account intent and overall context. With your current post as "evidence" even having a monkey work with you on the wall and receiving a "donation," should nps wish to prosecute your monkey guide, they would have a case. 

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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