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Can or should these shoes be resoled?

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John W · · Denver, CO · Joined May 2018 · Points: 0

Buck Rio · · MN · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 16

If you like them, why not. They will have to do a rand repair.

Greg R · · Durango CO · Joined Jan 2013 · Points: 10

It will be about $45 (plus shipping) and they will be like a new pair. Yosemite Bum is just one of many shops

Mike Stephan · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2017 · Points: 1,188

Yosemite Bum is a good option.  But be prepared to lose some performance with any resole job.  

Buck Rio · · MN · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 16

I really like the job The Rubber Room Resoles does. Never had a bad resole from them.

Parachute Adams · · At the end of the line · Joined Mar 2019 · Points: 0

Yes they should be resoled. Yes you should not wait so long to do so.
Yes you should quit dragging your toes :)

Stephen L · · South + Van · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 166

Pretty far gone when the toe blows like that. Depending on how bad it is, some places won’t bother with a resole. But maybe they can still do the rand. Next time I suggest watching the sole, and when it starts to wear down to meet the rand (such as in the second photo), start a planning a resolve in the future  

Nick Drake · · Kent, WA · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 651
The Raven wrote: 
Yes you should quit dragging your toes :)

Just because I"ve told people at the gym this advice and they seemed to miss the point, you can do this dragging your toes up the wall OR down. If you're just letting your shoe brush/rub down the wall as you stand onto holds it's going to do this. That comment goes out to the guy who go offended after complaining his futuras blew out in a month because they're "defective". 

Gabe Schwartz · · Hope Valley · Joined Mar 2011 · Points: 5

Honest question here.  Do good climbers blow out shoes in areas other than the toes?  Foot dragging aside, isn't that just where the rubber is the thinnest?  Also, how do you actually not drag your foot when you are making a big reach/move?  It just seems natural to do to keep contact to the wall and keep your center of gravity in.

~ Gabe

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236

To answer the question, a new rand can be put on but it requires a very skilled resoler to do so well, I have a friend who had his pinks resoled locally and it was appalling, misshapen and blew out within a few months, I sent my miura vs's off to shoe doctor in the Czech Republic and they're better than new.

Gabe Schwartz wrote:. Honest question here.  Do good climbers blow out shoes in areas other than the toes? 
Toe hooking and heel hooking can fuck up those areas and crack climbing blows out the sides of your shoes. 
 Foot dragging aside, isn't that just where the rubber is the thinnest?  
Well when they're new you have a solid 4mm+rand so if your placing your feet well it should take quite a while. 
Also, how do you actually not drag your foot when you are making a big reach/move? 
On slabs really big moves you can drag your feet but it's purpose here is more to smear on the rands of your shoe, otherwise yes its very easy to not drag your toes, we all did it in the beginning it's just something you stop doing once your footwork improves. 
 It just seems natural to do to keep contact to the wall and keep your center of gravity in.
Learn to climb with your hips more it will benifit your climbing greatly.
John W · · Denver, CO · Joined May 2018 · Points: 0

Thank you for the advice all!  And yes I do drag my feet up sometimes, much less then I used to but it seems like the damage had already been done. Hopefully now that I am aware of that I can stop doing it completely. 

Tony Sartin · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2012 · Points: 476

The Rubber Room in Bishop is hands down the top dog when it comes to resoles and rand repair. Just tell Tony that Tony sent you.

Eric Carlos · · Soddy Daisy, TN · Joined Aug 2008 · Points: 141
Tony Sartin wrote: The Rubber Room in Bishop is hands down the top dog when it comes to resoles and rand repair. Just tell Tony that Tony sent you.

Agreed.  Having had dozens done at Rock and Resole in Boulder (near where I live) I was out in Bishop in Feb and dropped two pair off at the Rubber Room.  Cheaper, better and faster than Rock and Resole.  

George Hayduke · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2006 · Points: 65
Tony Sartin wrote: The Rubber Room in Bishop is hands down the top dog when it comes to resoles and rand repair. Just tell Tony that Tony sent you.

x3 for Rubber Room... 

Buck Rio · · MN · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 16
Tony Sartin wrote: The Rubber Room in Bishop is hands down the top dog when it comes to resoles and rand repair. Just tell Tony that Tony sent you.

Puppo is the MAN when it comes to rand repair...He put a total of SIX resoles on some Mythos for me, with new rands about the 5th resole. Still have them, but don't really use them anymore.

Ted Pinson · · Chicago, IL · Joined Jul 2014 · Points: 252

Can, yes.  Should - probably not.  I find when you start poking holes through and need toe caps it becomes not worth it, as the performance of the shoe declines significantly and the extra cost of toe caps makes it not that great of a deal compared to significantly discounted new shoes.

Nick Drake · · Kent, WA · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 651
Gabe Schwartz wrote: Honest question here.  Do good climbers blow out shoes in areas other than the toes?  Foot dragging aside, isn't that just where the rubber is the thinnest?  Also, how do you actually not drag your foot when you are making a big reach/move?  It just seems natural to do to keep contact to the wall and keep your center of gravity in.

~ Gabe

On my sport shoes I never need a rand replacement, I just wear through the sole. On steeper terrain for those big reach moves I tend to place the foot out at a high point for the flagged foot, so there is no dragging. On really hard rockover moves on slab where you need some additional support of the flag and can't start high just giving a few taps up the rock into your finishing position works. Do it in a gym and you're going to sound like the new guy kicking the wall ;)

Bouldering or trad I do eventually destroy the rand somewhere. Lots of scumming with the top of the toe and side of the foot bouldering. I actually have a pair of dragos that wore out on top of the big toe and on the inside of the big toe from compressing aretes. 

phylp phylp · · Upland · Joined May 2015 · Points: 1,137

The other thing Tony and the Rubber Room will do is tell you if your shoes are worth resoling. If not worth it, they will either “give them a good burial” or ship them back to you. 

Darren Mabe · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2002 · Points: 3,669

What's the phone number for Rock and Resole

Buck Rio · · MN · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 16
Darren Mabe wrote: What's the phone number for Rock and Resole

Why?  Are you looking for a "soft catch" or "to escape the belay"???

curt86iroc · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 274

there is a local resoler in denver that will do it. if you climb at movement or ET, he has drop boxes at both gyms:

https://www.type2repairs.com/

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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