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GPS Tracks for the Eiger and Mt. Blanc?

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Jeff Maurin · · Pittsburgh, PA · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 40

Hi All,

I'm headed to Switzerland, then France, in a few weeks to [hopefully] climb the Eiger and Mt. Blanc.  As a back-up to maps and guidebook descriptions, I'd like to load GPS tracks for the ascent/descent onto my watch and phone.  Internet searches have not turned up much.  Can anyone help?

I'm specifically looking for tracks or waypoints for the descent routes off of the Eiger (South Ridge, West Ridge) and for the Tri Mont Blanc traverse.

Thanks for any info or pointers!  

Best, Jeff

Ryan Marsters · · Golden, CO · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 1,436

I do not, but Trois Monts is trenched the entire way and easy enough to follow, provided you have the weather to climb. The climb off Maudit is a bit spicy now; some anchors set to rappel. There was also a fixed line on Tacul.

Gerrit Verbeek · · Anchorage, AK · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 0

Courtesy of Ueli. Good luck, stay safe, and take a moment to enjoy it for him!

http://www.movescount.com/map?route=2040811&lat=46.57588749320729&lon=7.991115452482745&zoom=14.997709634685044&activity=3

https://www.facebook.com/ueli.steck/posts/eiger-descend-for-everybody-to-descend-the-eiger-here-the-exact-gps-track-its-go/10154902353953777/

Dave Cramer · · Greenfield, MA · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 7

Tres Monts is might not be advisable now, due to serac fall on the north face of Mont Blanc du Tacul. Search for the  "La Chamoniarde" page on Facebook.

Ted E · · Morrison, CO · Joined Apr 2011 · Points: 0

Peakbagger might be helpful with these

Dave Cramer · · Greenfield, MA · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 7

From yesterday:

Une chute de séracs a aussi balayé la face N et la trace de la voie normale du mont Blanc du Tacul (itinéraire du mont Blanc par les Trois Monts). De visu, la zone semble encore instable. Cela a considérablement compliqué le cheminement dans la face et notamment le franchissement de la rimaye.

Translation:

A fall of seracs also swept the North face and the normal route of Mont Blanc du Tacul (route of Mont Blanc by the Three Mountains). Visually, the area still seems unstable. This has considerably complicated the path in the face and in particular the crossing of the bergschrund.


Link to photo of serac fall on MBdT: https://www.facebook.com/chamoniarde/photos/pcb.2570651309658019/2570632422993241/?type=3&theater
Jeff Maurin · · Pittsburgh, PA · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 40

Thanks all for the leads, much appreciated.  I'll scour PeakBagger and Movescount; thanks for the heads-up on serac fall on Mont Blanc du Tacul, too -- it has been a heck of a hot summer.

Bogdan Pop · · Turda · Joined Jul 2019 · Points: 0
Gerrit Verbeek wrote: Courtesy of Ueli. Good luck, stay safe, and take a moment to enjoy it for him!

http://www.movescount.com/map?route=2040811&lat=46.57588749320729&lon=7.991115452482745&zoom=14.997709634685044&activity=3

https://www.facebook.com/ueli.steck/posts/eiger-descend-for-everybody-to-descend-the-eiger-here-the-exact-gps-track-its-go/10154902353953777/

It doesn't work on garmin.Gpx files are empty.

Gerrit Verbeek · · Anchorage, AK · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 0
Bogdan Pop wrote:

It doesn't work on garmin.Gpx files are empty.

The GPX files are fine and have data in them but I have a Garmin 64S and I think I know what you're talking about. I'm not 100% sure what the issue is but sometimes Garmin devices seem to not know how to interpret tracks without timestamps (they differentiate between Tracks and Routes, where a Track needs time data). I'll mess around with it in Basecamp in a few hours and re-upload.




Edit: While I'm at it I can check Suunto too for other routes. They appear to have extensive tracks in the Alps (more show up as you zoom) and even have a Mountaineering category.


Edit 2:
Trois Monts traverse by Txintxu, "3 MONTS BLANC TACUL GOUTER" http://www.movescount.com/map?route=4771315&lat=45.85336650000002&lon=6.84288250000003&zoom=14&activity=999&style=suunto-offroad 

Trois Monts out and back by Thibault_BARRON,
"3 MONTS" movescount.com/map?route=47…;lat=45.85637362322612&lon=6.877928378457312&zoom=13.99767321989661&activity=999&style=suunto-offroad

Neither of those seem to tag the summits of Maudit or Mont Blanc de Tacul, but I don't know the routes at all
Gerrit Verbeek · · Anchorage, AK · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 0

Final result: Converted track uploaded here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bhMJ48rnJrGGWDDJJc-sMwSzKq-fbIlp/view?usp=sharing

GIS folks feel free to chime in when you stop laughing at what a caveman kludge this is. I’m a dumb engineer messing around in text editors.

 
 GPX file structure recognizes the following:

  •  wpt is a Waypoint, the same as generated when I press the 'Mark' button on my Garmin
  •  trkpt is a Trackpoint, which shows up in most Garmins under Tracks. Tracks can have time data which I don’t believe Routes can.
  • rtept is a Routepoint, which shows up in Garmins under Routes. This is what Suunto outputs.
When I load the Suunto file to my Garmin, it shows up as a Route but the default visualization for this is a pile of pins for each point. I am not smart enough to remove the pins and just show a single line.
I briefly screwed around with some freeware apps but was not able to get it to work
  • Edward Sackman has a freeware converter here: sackman.info/ but that appears to require .gdb input
  • GPSBabel ( gpsbabel.org/ ) is a powerful freeware converter that I am probably too dumb to use
But then I opened the .gpx file in a text editor (Notepad++, but you can use any editor because this is not a complex operation)
Find and replace:
<rte> with <trk>
</rte> with </trk>
<rtept> with <trkpt>
</rtept> with </trkpt>
Add:
<trkseg> after </name> and </trkseg> before </trk>

Hooray, it now shows up in my Tracks as a clean line!
Bogdan Pop · · Turda · Joined Jul 2019 · Points: 0

Great work Gerrit Verbeek !
Thank you very much for taking your time to re-upload the route for garmin !
Seems like be ok now.
I hope will be fine on the route.I let you know.

Josh Journey · · Denver, CO · Joined Jan 2010 · Points: 40

Seems all track links are broken in thus thread including Uli's.

Brian · · North Kingstown, RI · Joined Sep 2001 · Points: 799

On the Eiger, I wouldn't do the West face descent unless there is some good consolidated snow.  In these days of global warming the South ridge is the route of choice and a better option.  Follow the South ridge around the Monk to the Monk hut. Unless you are coming down at night you don't need a GPS.  

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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