Trango Sport climbing package

Is this a good deal to get started outdoors?

https://www.backcountrygear.com/sport-climbing-package.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwxMjnBRCtARIsAGwWnBMsfHK55OLM3IPuUf8O3wqP7ZJuSPAY1Hep73L3ulelmbBWrs5GdNQaAgnVEALw_wcB

Depends, I personally don't care for those draws and would probably upgrade asap.

That said they work and it's cheap.

$14ish a draw isn't bad, especially with two slings and 4 lockers added in.  Though, I prefer the wider draws with clean-noise carabiners, like those BD Positron ones to this style.

Your partner brings the rope and you’re sport climbing! I’ve used those draws ice climbing, a friend owns them, they’re not bad. If you’re just starting out quickdraws aren’t going to hold you back. 

I have those draws, I like them.  But they are not at all stiff.  There are folks that like to expand their reach a tad by grabbing the draw and then clipping the wall from the draw.  These guys will not allow you to do that.  I also prefer a quad over a pair of slings for the anchors, and I can't figure out what you would do with only 2 loose biners in setting up a anchor.  You could just get two of the 6 packs of the same draws for $128, and now you have 2 extra draws.  So you can either clip 2 draw and use them for the anchor (just make sure the anchors are opposing and then you have the same 10 draws for climbing, or build your own quad with some 7mm cord and 4 locking biners (or non-lockers, or a mix) for about $40 (with 4x lockers).  So for an extra $20, you get 2 more draws and a complete anchor for clipping a bolted anchor.

You can save some money by getting 2 packs of these:
https://www.backcountrygear.com/climbing/carabiners-quickdraws/quickdraws/firefly-ii-quickdraw-wire-gate-6-pack.html

and pairing it with two ovals and some 7 mm cord and now you have a quad and 12 draws for the same $.

Matt Himmelstein wrote:...a sliding X ...

Not a sliding X? Gasp...

YGD!

I think this is a fine deal to start out with. If you want to take some time, you can find beefier draws for a better price. I don't know anything about this company, but it seems legit and these draws are insanely priced:
https://www.hdosport.com/kong-trapper-anniversary-quickdraw.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=pla&utm_campaign=ep4p&utm_term=&utm_content=&ep4p_ref=google&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrKDbrdPO4gIVBtVkCh3G3wVMEAYYASABEgKNy_D_BwE
If i were looking to buy my first set of draws right now, i would buy these on a credit card and just hope they actually send them and you get the smokinest deal. Thicker dogbone, keylocks and those sweet sweet colors that will make you stand out at the crag!

Matt Himmelstein wrote: I have those draws, I like them.  But they are not at all stiff.  There are folks that like to expand their reach a tad by grabbing the draw and then clipping the wall from the draw.  These guys will not allow you to do that.  I also prefer a quad over a pair of slings for the anchors, and I can't figure out what you would do with only 2 loose biners in setting up a anchor.  You could just get two of the 6 packs of the same draws for $128, and now you have 2 extra draws.  So you can either clip 2 draw and use them for the anchor (just make sure the anchors are opposing and then you have the same 10 draws for climbing, or build your own X with some 7mm cord and 4 locking biners (or non-lockers, or a mix) for about $40 (with 4x lockers).  So for an extra $20, you get 2 more draws and a complete anchor for clipping a bolted anchor.

You can save some money by getting 2 packs of these:
https://www.backcountrygear.com/climbing/carabiners-quickdraws/quickdraws/firefly-ii-quickdraw-wire-gate-6-pack.html

and pairing it with two ovals and some 7 mm cord and now you have a sliding X and 12 draws for the same $.

Thanks for the response, the deal come with 4 lockers, but I don't think that changes your analysis. This is exactly what I was looking for!

Brandon Fields wrote: I think this is a fine deal to start out with. If you want to take some time, you can find beefier draws for a better price. I don't know anything about this company, but it seems legit and these draws are insanely priced:
https://www.hdosport.com/kong-trapper-anniversary-quickdraw.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=pla&utm_campaign=ep4p&utm_term=&utm_content=&ep4p_ref=google&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrKDbrdPO4gIVBtVkCh3G3wVMEAYYASABEgKNy_D_BwE
If i were looking to buy my first set of draws right now, i would buy these on a credit card and just hope they actually send them and you get the smokinest deal. Thicker dogbone, keylocks and those sweet sweet colors that will make you stand out at the crag!

Wow. That is an insane deal. I am waiting on my rope to arrive, and have no trips planned, so I am not exactly in a hurry. I think the plan might be too wait for a nice sale and get a more sport specific quickdraw than what this package comes with. 

Bill Kirby wrote:

Not a sliding X? Gasp...

YGD!

My brain fart. A quad, not X.  I would never use an X.  Never!

PJK STL wrote:

Thanks for the response, the deal come with 4 lockers, but I don't think that changes your analysis. This is exactly what I was looking for!

Actually, with 4 lockers and 2 slings, you can make an X (YGD!), so that makes sense now.  Personally, I have a pre-tied quad with lockers and I prefer that to an X, but you could buy a couple $ worth of cord and use the lockers in the pack.

Like I said, I have those draws and like them.